Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

[BulldogBelle]

Gilbee's 2007 season was slightly marred due to his injury in the middle part of the season. We definitely missed his long kicking and precision around the ground.

With a good pre-season behind him, I await his pinpoint accuracy to his team mates in season 2008. Great to watch when he is at his best. Where do you guys think is his best position to play?

[GVGjr]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

Gilbee's 2007 season was slightly marred due to his injury in the middle part of the season. We definitely missed his long kicking and precision around the ground.

With a good pre-season behind him, I await his pinpoint accuracy to his team mates in season 2008. Great to watch when he is at his best. Where do you guys think is his best position to play?

I'd like to see him further up the ground with where is kicking into the forward line could provide our forwards with plenty of quality options. The problem with this is Gilbee has been typecast by Eade as a defender who can be best used on taller opponents to create a mismatch and a midfielder who cannot handle a close checking opponent. I'm not sure that I agree with this but I do understand the logic in it.

The problem Gilbee is now faced with is opposition teams that keep dragging him deep in defence which stifles his run and carry and overall effectiveness. It might be an overstatement but Gilbee probably needs to reinvent himself to some small degree and prove to the coach he is capable of being more than just a play making defender.

[hujsh]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

I think we should look to get the ball to Gilbee anywhere near the forward 50. He will either kick a goal or pass to someone closer. If this means he needs a new position then someone like Everitt could take his role and possibly improve on what Gilbee has done.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

The problem Gilbee is now faced with is opposition teams that keep dragging him deep in defence which stifles his run and carry and overall effectiveness.

This happened quite a bit during the season with the opp players dragging him back into defence. In season 2006 before this tactic was employed by the opposition teams he was roaming free and kicking those goals of his we all love to see.

[wimberga]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

I actually believe that Gilbee does quite a good job as a defender, but slotting Everitt into his position and pushing Gilbee upfield does sound like a good option. Gilbee is more damaging than Everitt (From the little we have seen) and pin-point delivery into the forward 50 was severely lacking last season, so im all for this one. Whos got Eades number?

[hujsh]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

I actually believe that Gilbee does quite a good job as a defender, but slotting Everitt into his position and pushing Gilbee upfield does sound like a good option.

The problem with him as a defender is if it takes away some of his attacking skills. A lot
of players make the defense their first position untill they get settled.

We have the best kick in the comp so we should use him where he can be most dangerous. I believe that the opposing teams would choose to have Gilbee kick out from full back than taking shots from outside 50. The question is whether he can find the ball up the field.

Everitt will also be a better defender because of his height.

[westdog54]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

I think we should look to get the ball to Gilbee anywhere near the forward 50. He will either kick a goal or pass to someone closer. If this means he needs a new position then someone like Everitt could take his role and possibly improve on what Gilbee has done.

The first time I saw Everitt kick a football at training the first thing that came across my mind was that he'd fill Gilbee's role within 2 years. He was hitting 55 metre drop punts with little to no effort in his kicking action. I think he's the best natural kick at the club.

There's a thread going about how much we rely on Johnson up forward. I think the question could just as easily be asked of Gilbee coming out of defence. We need someone to be able to step into this role to take the pressure off Lindsay, and Skinny seems to me to be the ideal canditate.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

Just two things about Gilbee
1. He doesn't handle a tag too well.
2. Whilst he is smart enough on the football field his isn't the smartest going around which means his development and adaption to different tactics/plays/etc are slower than others.

[Dogs 24/7]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

The problem with this is Gilbee has been typecast by Eade as a defender who can be best used on taller opponents to create a mismatch and a midfielder who cannot handle a close checking opponent. I'm not sure that I agree with this but I do understand the logic in it.

The problem Gilbee is now faced with is opposition teams that keep dragging him deep in defence which stifles his run and carry and overall effectiveness. It might be an overstatement but Gilbee probably needs to reinvent himself to some small degree and prove to the coach he is capable of being more than just a play making defender.

Just two things about Gilbee
1. He doesn't handle a tag too well.
2. Whilst he is smart enough on the football field his isn't the smartest going around which means his development and adaption to different tactics/plays/etc are slower than others.

1 He needs to learn how to do this. Its to convenient of an excuse to just sling him into the back line because he cant hand the tag
2 He needs to develop in this area. Coaches are good at making excuses for players but I regard Gilbee as a pure footballer who will adjust as needed if given the opportunity.

[Mantis]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

As Ernie mentioned Gilbee struggles when moved from defence or when a defensive forward picks him up.

He is best suited as previously mentioned in a role across half back where he can use kicking skills in a quarterback type role.

No doubt he is in our top 5 most important players.

[Dogs 24/7]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

As Ernie mentioned Gilbee struggles when moved from defence or when a defensive forward picks him up.

He is best suited as previously mentioned in a role across half back where he can use kicking skills in a quarterback type role.

No doubt he is in our top 5 most important players.

So what you and others are saying is he is not much more than a skilled one trick one position pony and that is dependant on if the opposition allows him to be ? If they sling a defensive minded forward on him he cant handle it ?
Now that clubs have seen how to curb his influence and given that the belief is that he cant play anywhere else it will be hard to rate him as a top 5 player in 2008
I dont believe that he cant be good in other positions. If he has trouble with the tag then he needs to be better than that and nothing I have seen says that he wont adapt.

[hujsh]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

As Ernie mentioned Gilbee struggles when moved from defence or when a defensive forward picks him up.

He is best suited as previously mentioned in a role across half back where he can use kicking skills in a quarterback type role.

No doubt he is in our top 5 most important players.

I haven't really seen Gilbee play in the midfield or forward but is it possible he could perform better now than when he was younger because he is settled in the side?

[dog town]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

I haven't really seen Gilbee play in the midfield or forward but is it possible he could perform better now than when he was younger because he is settled in the side?

Gilbee played forward in 3 or 4 games this year and even started round 1 across half forward against the cats. Just doesn't get enough of the ball in that role to do him justice. He is a natural running defender or wingmen. With Mcmahon gone I would be extremely suprised if he plays anywhere other than across half back.

[hujsh]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

Gilbee played forward in 3 or 4 games this year and even started round 1 across half forward against the cats. Just doesn't get enough of the ball in that role to do him justice. He is a natural running defender or wingmen. With Mcmahon gone I would be extremely suprised if he plays anywhere other than across half back.

Well my point was to use him where he would he best and it seems like that is the back flank.

[Dogs 24/7]

Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

Gilbee played forward in 3 or 4 games this year and even started round 1 across half forward against the cats. Just doesn't get enough of the ball in that role to do him justice. He is a natural running defender or wingmen. With Mcmahon gone I would be extremely suprised if he plays anywhere other than across half back.

Wing is a position I could see him playing for us.