Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

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  • Bulldog Revolution
    Coaching Staff
    • Dec 2006
    • 3933

    #16
    Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

    Originally posted by Dogs 24/7
    Wing is a position I could see him playing for us.
    He has always seemed a natural wingman to me, but having him develop as a backman has greatly improved the defensive side to his game. Basically it would be good to have him wherever he is going to get as much of the ball as possible because he is such a brilliant kick. On a wing its a great thought to think of him getting more shots on goal, but I guess the issue might be whether he can find as much of the footy on a wing.

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15547

      #17
      Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

      Originally posted by Dogs 24/7
      So what you and others are saying is he is not much more than a skilled one trick one position pony and that is dependant on if the opposition allows him to be ? If they sling a defensive minded forward on him he cant handle it ?
      Now that clubs have seen how to curb his influence and given that the belief is that he cant play anywhere else it will be hard to rate him as a top 5 player in 2008
      I dont believe that he cant be good in other positions. If he has trouble with the tag then he needs to be better than that and nothing I have seen says that he wont adapt.
      I don't think he is a one trick pony so to speak. Gilbee is probably in the top 2 or 3 in the competition for his role and his achievements show this. He was AA in 06 and probably until half way through last year was in similiar form. Not having Griffen in the team and with McMahon out of form we were forced to use Gilbee as our sole 'run and carry' option from defence. The opposition were awake to this and he was paid much closer attention.

      With Griffen coming back into the team next season and the emergence of Everitt we will have a few other options which may help to free Gilbee up.

      I agree with opthers that his defensive work is underrated and he is quite capable of beating his man in a 1 on 1 duel which is a must for any player positioned in the defensive area.

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11960

        #18
        Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

        Originally posted by Mantis
        I agree with opthers that his defensive work is underrated and he is quite capable of beating his man in a 1 on 1 duel which is a must for any player positioned in the defensive area.
        In round one i saw him beat N.Ablett a couple of times and he beat one of the Cloke brothers for a quarter or so in 05 i think but i would feel safer if Everitt was doing that job
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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15547

          #19
          Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

          Originally posted by hujsh
          In round one i saw him beat N.Ablett a couple of times and he beat one of the Cloke brothers for a quarter or so in 05 i think but i would feel safer if Everitt was doing that job
          With the introduction of Williams, Everitt and McDougall into our defence in the 2nd half of last year Gilbee didn't and wont have to fill these types of roles (playing against taller opponents) again. He is very comfortable playing against a player of similiar size.

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          • Bulldog Revolution
            Coaching Staff
            • Dec 2006
            • 3933

            #20
            Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

            Originally posted by Mantis

            I agree with opthers that his defensive work is underrated and he is quite capable of beating his man in a 1 on 1 duel which is a must for any player positioned in the defensive area.
            Hes very good in the air and generally spoiks above his weight and height, but I guess the challenge of shutting players down in the midfield is knowing when to go and get it, or read the play, and when to stay with them and shut them down.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 67688

              #21
              Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

              Lindsay is struggling to regain that form that got him an all Australian a few years ago. I love watching this bloke play, running down the ground bouncing the ball, then receiving a pass 50 metres out and banging a long goal.

              What can Eade do to get his confidence up again? Is he carrying an injury that we don't know about? Should Eade move him into a different role? Any thoughts?
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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10251

                #22
                Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

                Maybe some time in the middle where he might escape a tag (doubtful he'd escape it though). Besides that, perhaps Everitt/Ray back in the side playing of half back could also assist him. He's our only quality runner in the back half at the moment, and I'm sure the opposition are doing everything to see the ball in the hands of Lake, Morris, Shaggy, Wight, Williams, Callan or Addison before Gilbee gets it.

                His year has been a bit quiet, but he's been pretty effective in a few matches. Hopefully he'll continue to build and improve as the season wears on. We must remember that Gilbee only really needs 15-20 touches to be very damaging. We just have to be able to use him in the right spots, where he can use his strengths.
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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 67688

                  #23
                  Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

                  Originally posted by Griffen#16
                  Maybe some time in the middle where he might escape a tag (doubtful he'd escape it though). Besides that, perhaps Everitt/Ray back in the side playing of half back could also assist him. He's our only quality runner in the back half at the moment, and I'm sure the opposition are doing everything to see the ball in the hands of Lake, Morris, Shaggy, Wight, Williams, Callan or Addison before Gilbee gets it.

                  His year has been a bit quiet, but he's been pretty effective in a few matches. Hopefully he'll continue to build and improve as the season wears on. We must remember that Gilbee only really needs 15-20 touches to be very damaging. We just have to be able to use him in the right spots, where he can use his strengths.
                  He is still averaging 19 touches a game, although this is down on the past couple of sesasons.
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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #24
                    Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

                    He got smashed early in the game against Freo and that took a bit out of him.

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                    • The Underdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6987

                      #25
                      Re: Lindsay Gilbee in 2008

                      Shutting down his run is a huge focus for opposition teams. They know how important and dangerous he is for us and have paid him the according respect. I guess Lindsay has to learn how to deal with this but he also needs help from his teammates blocking and trying to free up space for him to get the ball in his hands. I think his confidence is probably down a bit at the moment but I've no doubt he'll bounce back. I don't know whether moving him around is going to help too much as he'll be tagged regardless of where he plays and while he is a great shot for a goal, I think moving him forward would be self defeating and mess with a structure that has had great results thus far.
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