Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44089

    Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
    Does the value of Cross in the VFL outweigh his worth in the seniors? If the future are our kids, can't think of anyone better to mentor them. Perhaps they had a chat to him and said, look mate, this is where you will really have an impact in the future and leave a legacy.
    To be honest, I thought he hadn't been playing too badly in the firsts.
    Terrific question. Personally I think if he is on the senior list then he needs to be in the mix to be selected. Perhaps next year he would be invaluable in the VFL. All players can see the way he continues to set the standard of his training attitude and preparation to play anyway.

    We shouldn't have a line through his name at the selection table.
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 65834

      Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

      Originally posted by lemmon
      Just watching the replay and am up to Clay Smiths hit on Heath, the guy smacks into people like Aaron Hamill used to. Bulk him up and he's going to have a fair old hit reel by the time his careers out
      I saw him at a function and he is bulkier than you think. His muscles on his arms are something to look at.
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      • lemmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2008
        • 6474

        Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

        Anyone else think there's a correlation between Boyd being out and Libba's output ramping up again?

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44089

          Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

          Originally posted by lemmon
          Anyone else think there's a correlation between Boyd being out and Libba's output ramping up again?
          Interesting observation, not sure I know the answer.
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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            He can't afford to build up at the expense of his pace. I'm sure he will refine his build over the years but his aerobic capacity needs the most work at the moment.
            Yeah. I'm with you on this one. If he wants to add more muscle he'll have to drop fat, which is hard to do. Even 3-5kg of weight can really effect your run times. He seems to have a solid frame as is and it can't be easy to carry around a footy field. If you look at someone like Judd in the last few years he almost has the body of a middle distance runner, rather than the traditional muscle frame that the AFL lads use to build.

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            • lemmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6474

              Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Interesting observation, not sure I know the answer.
              Just looking at his stats and his disposal average for the year is 25.25 without Boyd and drops to an average of 21 with Boyd in the side, his clearances also fall from 9.5 in games without Boyd to 6.5 in games with. It doesn't really correlate with a change in game time, he only really drops about 3% of game time when Boyd is in the middle. Clearances is probably the big stat, a 33% fall is significant in my book, does everyone just shuffle to slightly more outside when Boyd comes in?

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              • MrMahatma
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2007
                • 3965

                Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

                Originally posted by lemmon
                Just looking at his stats and his disposal average for the year is 25.25 without Boyd and drops to an average of 21 with Boyd in the side, his clearances also fall from 9.5 in games without Boyd to 6.5 in games with. It doesn't really correlate with a change in game time, he only really drops about 3% of game time when Boyd is in the middle. Clearances is probably the big stat, a 33% fall is significant in my book, does everyone just shuffle to slightly more outside when Boyd comes in?
                What's his efficiency rate?

                Not a lot of data to go on though.

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27645

                  Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  We are hanging in and still a chance if we can get some momentum.
                  It's not pretty but I'd love to get the 6 points.




                  I think you might have been a bit distracted at this stage mate!
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 65834

                    Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

                    Tom Liberatore is the youngest player (21yo) to have at least 35 disp, 20 cont poss & 12 clearances in a game since Simon Black in R4, 2000.
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                    • G-Mo77
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9873

                      Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Tom Liberatore is the youngest player (21yo) to have at least 35 disp, 20 cont poss & 12 clearances in a game since Simon Black in R4, 2000.
                      I read that one earlier somewhere, can't remember where though? Nice little stat comparison.

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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15175

                        Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Tom Liberatore is the youngest player (21yo) to have at least 35 disp, 20 cont poss & 12 clearances in a game since Simon Black in R4, 2000.
                        Originally posted by G-Mo77
                        I read that one earlier somewhere, can't remember where though? Nice little stat comparison.
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                        • Nuggety Back Pocket
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 2064

                          Re: Game Day - R10 Western Bulldogs V Port Adelaide

                          Originally posted by lemmon
                          Anyone else think there's a correlation between Boyd being out and Libba's output ramping up again?
                          I thought the same thing. Libba had been labouring in previous matches but really lifted against Port as did Wallis who was a good inclusion. Liberatore's confidence would have lifted alongside an outstanding game by Griffen and the 57 hitouts ruck dominance by Minson.

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