Rate Simon Dalrymple

[Bornadog]

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The concept of a football club with no dickheads in it is laughable.

I agree, we can't just say that this coach has not recruited any dickheads at the club, because sooner of later it will happen. As I said in my original post, you can have all the interview techniques you want, the checking of the family, the school record etc etc, but young people can go off the rails. The good clubs learn to deal with these guys, in house and if that doesn't work, they will not last.

For all we know, some guys are dickheads, but the club has dealt with it and we will never know.

[Maddog37]

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The definition of what constitutes a dickhead is also open to interpretation according to ones own values. I know some great people that simply have charachter flaws. Do they occasionally act like a dickhead...yes. Does that make them a dickhead? Not necessarily.

It does seem that Macca has a more rigid and structured approach to recruitment as he discussed at the member events earler in the year.

[Bornadog]

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The definition of what constitutes a dickhead is also open to interpretation according to ones own values. I know some great people that simply have charachter flaws. Do they occasionally act like a dickhead...yes. Does that make them a dickhead? Not necessarily.

It does seem that Macca has a more rigid and structured approach to recruitment as he discussed at the member events earler in the year.

I think times have also changed with all the media scrutiny, forums, social media, etc clubs can't afford to have dickheads at their club.

[LostDoggy]

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Problem is BAD, yours and my favourite undrafted player from last season would almost certainly fall into this category.

A club must look after it's brand, but the ultimate goal of a club is to win a premiership. Problem is there are talented dickheads who are more likely to help you win a cup than a team of morally correct, outstanding members of the community.

We've traditionally fallen short by over-extracting under-talented players. Lets not forget the game of football is built heavily on talent, not off-field morality.

[Mofra]

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We've traditionally fallen short by over-extracting under-talented players. Lets not forget the game of football is built heavily on talent, not off-field morality.

The unfortunate aspect is we are a club that can less afford off field incidents compared to the bigger clubs who have sponsors lining up to back them.
Whether it has a large or small bearing on the recruitment process, we are probably less inclined to take a marginal case than some other clubs.

I think B-Mac's approach is a little more nuanced than a simple "no dickheads" policy. He really seems to look for people who fit a certain mantra, a self-sacrifice type of mentality.

[Greystache]

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Sorry this is uninformed and just trying to pot the previous coach.

How many times during Rockets tenure did we read about a player in the press playing up after hours? To me that is what the no dickhead policy is all about.

You mean like Harbrow getting arrested for D&D during the finals and it not making the papers?

So the no dickhead policy isn't actually about stopping players being dickheads, it's about covering it up effectively? Got it.

[Twodogs]

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I agree, we can't just say that this coach has not recruited any dickheads at the club, because sooner of later it will happen. As I said in my original post, you can have all the interview techniques you want, the checking of the family, the school record etc etc, but young people can go off the rails. The good clubs learn to deal with these guys, in house and if that doesn't work, they will not last.

For all we know, some guys are dickheads, but the club has dealt with it and we will never know.

My take on it is Rocket is a bit of a lair himself whereas Bmac doesn't suffer fools. I think there are arguments for both POVs.

Sorry this is uninformed and just trying to pot the previous coach.

How many times during Rockets tenure did we read about a player in the press playing up after hours? To me that is what the no dickhead policy is all about.

Not really. While I agree that a keeping things in house is usually the best outcome for a footy club if one of our players was responsible for a major crime I would want them held to account in public.

To me a no DH policy is more about having a good culture where the players respect one another and the club and act accordingly.

[Topdog]

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Its all lip service really. Every club will have a dickhead that is good enough.

[Bornadog]

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You mean like Harbrow getting arrested for D&D during the finals and it not making the papers?

So the no dickhead policy isn't actually about stopping players being dickheads, it's about covering it up effectively? Got it.

Like Malthouse winning a premiership when everyone wanted to hang Shaw and DIDAK, I will take the premiership everytime. Got it.

[Greystache]

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Like Malthouse winning a premiership when everyone wanted to hang Shaw and DIDAK, I will take the premiership everytime. Got it.

What has any of that got to do with you claiming the lack of bad publicity was proof Eade's no dickhead policy was effective and that other posters are uniformed

Sorry this is uninformed and just trying to pot the previous coach.

How many times during Rockets tenure did we read about a player in the press playing up after hours? To me that is what the no dickhead policy is all about.

[Bornadog]

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What has any of that got to do with you claiming the lack of bad publicity was proof Eade's no dickhead policy was effective and that other posters are uniformed

You proved that already as Harbrow's was kept out of the paper. This is what I said in my post, goodclubs can handle the dickheads. FFS, Geelong has won 3 premierships with dickheads but they know how to deal with them.

Do you really believe under Macca there will be no incidents that are kept under the carpet?
If he really had a no dickhead policy Libba would have been sacked last year.

[Twodogs]

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Settle petals. You guys are starting to go over the same ground.

[Dry Rot]

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Back on topic, IMO we can't really count our top three 2012 recruits now or in future re the topic of this thread.

[Dry Rot]

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Pot the F/S system all you like, but Libba for a 2nd rounder & Hunter for a 3rd are looking like spectacular value.

Balanced out by the failure with Cordy and Wallis for a first rounder.

[mighty_west]

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Balanced out by the failure with Cordy and Wallis for a first rounder.

How can you call both Cordy and Wallis failures especially given they're still at the club very much in development mode? I still see Cords as ruckman even though he's been planted up forward, and Wallis has shown more than enough when playing well that he will be a quality mid, some players just take longer to develop than others, even midfielders.