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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15547

    #466
    Re: Marcus Bontempelli

    Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
    Still surprised that we, collectively, don't have him ranked in our 6 leaders in the Woof Awards (after R22 at least).
    His middle part of the season wasn't super, which is when quite a few of his team-mates excelled.. Hitting his straps now.

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    • Murphy'sLore
      WOOF Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 2085

      #467
      Re: Marcus Bontempelli

      Originally posted by Mantis
      His middle part of the season wasn't super, which is when quite a few of his team-mates excelled.. Hitting his straps now.
      As usual, he shows perfect timing.

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      • Dancin' Douggy
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 2877

        #468
        Re: Marcus Bontempelli

        Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
        FWIW, Bont now ranked #13 player in AFL.
        Where can you see this stat?
        Would love to have a look

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #469
          Re: Marcus Bontempelli

          Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
          Where can you see this stat?
          Would love to have a look
          The AFL have the player ratings on their website. It's usually in the bottom left hand corner of their homepage at www.afl.com.au.

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          • Dancin' Douggy
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 2877

            #470
            Re: Marcus Bontempelli

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            Here it is. I've clicked on the bulldogs team. It's quite interesting. If you click on a players name. A graph comes up of their entire career rankings. Like a worm. Bonty's just goes straight up!!!! So does Stringers. It's interesting to look at the troughs and peaks over a long career. But Both Bob and Easton, for example, despite some troughs are both having solid improvement and both are in best career form.........pretty sure it's a fairly common theme across our group this year.

            BBontys chart.pdf

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #471
              Re: Marcus Bontempelli

              Yep. I find it interesting that Bont is such a phenomenal scorer given a lot of his best qualities are hard to measure statistically. He doesn't wrack up outrageous numbers, yet their models have him the best young player in the game by miles. It's apparently a fairly complicated scoring system they have.

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              • Bulldog Joe
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jul 2009
                • 5628

                #472
                Re: Marcus Bontempelli

                Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                Where can you see this stat?
                Would love to have a look
                Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                • Dancin' Douggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 2877

                  #473
                  Re: Marcus Bontempelli

                  Thanks Bulldog Joe

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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11962

                    #474
                    Re: Marcus Bontempelli

                    Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                    Yep. I find it interesting that Bont is such a phenomenal scorer given a lot of his best qualities are hard to measure statistically. He doesn't wrack up outrageous numbers, yet their models have him the best young player in the game by miles. It's apparently a fairly complicated scoring system they have.
                    Which on-field acts contribute to a player's score?

                    Every time a player is involved in a passage of play he has the chance to accrue points. But rather than his score being a simple tally of his possessions, marks, tackles, hit-outs, free-kicks and scores, his performance is measured using a system called Equity Ratings. The system determines where and how a player influences a contest and whether the player's effort then results in a positive result for his team. Equity Ratings includes what coaches love to describe as "pressure acts". As a result, players are rewarded for interrupting opposition passages of play as well as setting up scores for their own team.

                    Players who consistently produce positive contributions are rewarded more highly than players with a high volume of stats. As an example, a 20-disposal game by Cyril Rioli, where 17 disposals are positive and only one is negative, can have the same impact as a 40-disposal game by Dane Swan, where 25 are positive and nine are negative.
                    From the link above
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #475
                      Re: Marcus Bontempelli

                      Imagine if he gets the rising star on top of AFLPA. Then imagine he get All Australian or the squad at 19. That's the stuff a even bigger legend could be built on. By every objective measure he should turn 20 with more accolades than any other recent player. We know he's a superstar and AFL legend, but he deserves better treatment by the AFL and right to smash all records. There's a tinge of disappointment for me that he's not been elevated by the governing body for an outstanding first two years. But I've got another 13 or more years to get over it and see all records tumble by then.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14552

                        #476
                        Re: Marcus Bontempelli

                        This early in his career it will be interesting to see if he gets many brownlow votes, did he get any last year ?
                        Bring back the biff

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #477
                          Re: Marcus Bontempelli

                          Originally posted by ledge
                          This early in his career it will be interesting to see if he gets many brownlow votes, did he get any last year ?
                          Bont got 4 votes last year. You'd reckon he'll top that this year as he has been the standout on a few occasions.

                          The AFL have done a phantom brownlow this year, predicting the 3-2-1 of every match. They have Fyfe winning by a mile on 30.

                          They have top Dogs as Stringer 10, Wallis 9, Hunter 8, Bont 8.

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                          • Ozza
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 6402

                            #478
                            Re: Marcus Bontempelli

                            I would have said Bonti has potentially 4 best on grounds.

                            v WCE round 1
                            v Richmond
                            v Gold Coast
                            v North Melbourne

                            Apart from that you'd think he polls v Sydney (23 poss & 2 goals), against Collingwood (28 poss and a goal), and maybe against Port Adelaide where he was prominent along with a host of others.

                            He's very noticeable. Wins contested ball. Kicks goals. I'd be surprised if he didn't poll well throughout his career.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #479
                              Re: Marcus Bontempelli

                              Originally posted by Ozza
                              I would have said Bonti has potentially 4 best on grounds.

                              v WCE round 1
                              v Richmond
                              v Gold Coast
                              v North Melbourne

                              Apart from that you'd think he polls v Sydney (23 poss & 2 goals), against Collingwood (28 poss and a goal), and maybe against Port Adelaide where he was prominent along with a host of others.

                              He's very noticeable. Wins contested ball. Kicks goals. I'd be surprised if he didn't poll well throughout his career.
                              In the Phantom brownlow they gave Bont 3 in R2 & R15 and 2 in R22.

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                              • chef
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14748

                                #480
                                Re: Marcus Bontempelli

                                Just a reminder about Bont Day today on Fox.
                                The curse is dead.

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