Marcus Bontempelli

[Grantysghost]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Apparently the players don't rate Bont as highly as the coaches, not even in the top 5???

AFLPA MVP
1. Patrick Cripps (832)
2. Tim Kelly (519)
3. Lachie Neale (481)
4. Brodie Grundy (355)
5. Nat Fyfe (303)

Intelligence isn't their strong point.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Surprised by that. Suspect that Bont not Mr Popular due to beating up on everyone all the time. Honestly, he is that good that our recognition of what is good for him is skewed significantly. An excellent Bont performance is actually normal in our eyes now.

Yes I think that's a fair comment. To have a year like he has, having played more games than Cripps and not even make top 5 then the jokes on them.

[Bornadog]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

I really don't get the love for Cripps to the exclusion of others. Yes he's ekite, but side by side against other elite mids its not like he stands out. Certainly when you look at Cripps' stats against Bont, there is no real discernable difference. Indeed I'd say Bont comes out marginally ahead.

Bont is also more damaging in a game, you only have to look at goals (15) and goal assists (20), compared to Cripps 13 and 6.

Cripps has no one else in his team to compete against in the midfield.

[Axe Man]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Cripps has no one else in his team to compete against in the midfield.

You could also say Cripps gets all the attention whereas the presence of Macrae and Dunkley mean the opposition can't afford to focus solely on Bont.

Bont and Cripps are both great players, all bulldogs bias aside there isn't much between them in my opinion. The ridiculous part is that Cripps gets +800 votes to Bont less than 300.

[Mantis]

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Bont is also more damaging in a game, you only have to look at goals (15) and goal assists (20), compared to Cripps 13 and 6.

They're very different players as Cripps as more damaging in close (more CP's & clearances) wherease Bont is more hurtful on the outside (higher metres gained & score assists/ involevements)

Cripps has no one else in his team to compete against in the midfield.

No-one?

Murphy & Walsh average 25 disposals per game & Curnow 22 so he's not a lone soldier.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

You could also say Cripps gets all the attention whereas the presence of Macrae and Dunkley mean the opp[osition can't afford to focus solely on Bont.

Bont and Cripps and both great players, all bulldogs bias aside there isn't much between them in my opinion. The ridiculous part is that Cripps gets +800 votes to Bont less than 300.

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That's the nub of my confusion. How can there be such a discrepancy.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Bonts highlight reel would be better than the other contenders'

[azabob]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Apparently the players don't rate Bont as highly as the coaches, not even in the top 5???

AFLPA MVP
1. Patrick Cripps (832)
2. Tim Kelly (519)
3. Lachie Neale (481)
4. Brodie Grundy (355)
5. Nat Fyfe (303)

Clearly they don’t rate premiership players...

[whythelongface]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Clearly they don’t rate premiership players...

Good call.

Clearly they are all exceptional players but come on to not rate Bont in the top 5, let alone top 2 is surely a joke.

Do the coaches see the game from a completely different perspective to the players??

[Mofra]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Good call.

Clearly they are all exceptional players but come on to not rate Bont in the top 5, let alone top 2 is surely a joke.

Do the coaches see the game from a completely different perspective to the players??

"Most Valuable" is not the same as "best"

Without the Bont our starting midfield still has Dunkley & Macrae in it. That's a brilliant duo to have in the middle.

Without Cripps, how does Carlton's midfield look? It's basically a promising kid, a housebrick and a poodle named Trevor. Cripps is more important to Carlton than almost any other player is to his team.

[jeemak]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Good call.

Clearly they are all exceptional players but come on to not rate Bont in the top 5, let alone top 2 is surely a joke.

Do the coaches see the game from a completely different perspective to the players??

We all make the assumption that because of the fact that players play, they know about the game more than everyone else. I'm not sure they do.

I'm pretty sure the coaches do.

[mjp]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Do the coaches see the game from a completely different perspective to the players??

I have to admit, I am pretty cynical about both of these awards.

- Say what you want, for Dangerfield to not even be nominated from Geelong is a bit of a joke.
- If I was a coach, I would give my primary votes to 1 or 2 of my players each week...that way, those would be pushed up the leaderboard. [In other words, Bont was 3rd best...still give him 5 votes 'cos they all count by the end.]

All that said, both Cripps and Bont are worthy winners!

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Apparently the players don't rate Bont as highly as the coaches, not even in the top 5???

AFLPA MVP
1. Patrick Cripps (832)
2. Tim Kelly (519)
3. Lachie Neale (481)
4. Brodie Grundy (355)
5. Nat Fyfe (303)

The Players Association is the least informed. All of the listed players have an equal vote and more than half have hardly seen a game they have not played in.

They are the most susceptible to an opinion from their social media peer group, rather than a football based group.

There is absolutely no way that Cripps could rank that highly compared to Brodie Grundy on any INFORMED opinion.

We won't get down to Bont, playing for a team that just does not receive the same level of media coverage.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Bontempelli on Mont Blanc
Bontempelli telling
Bontempelli temporarily attempting a torpedo
Bontempelli well and truly
Bontempelli ill met to Toblerone
Bontempelli jumps over the moon.

[AshMac]

Re: Marcus Bontempelli

Bont considered the most “valuable asset” in the AFL according to the stats

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-period-2019-afls-most-valuable-asset-best-young-player-marcus-bontempelli-tim-taranto-patrick-cripps/news-story/94e7dfac2f189b9238865508d7aad7d5

Cripps according to the “experts”