Matthew Fuller

[Bornadog]

Re: Matthew Fuller

I'd argue that VFL and SANFL are very similar levels. Can't really comment on WAFL but no reason why that would be much different either. #oldarguement.

I think with the amount of AFL players on the lists in Victoria that play VFL, would make the VFL stronger. Certainly take them out and the competitions are more even.

[jeemak]

Re: Matthew Fuller

The general consensus from players has been it's a big step up from SANFL or WAFL to VFL. Not as big obviously as VFL to AFL, but a step up none the less.

I'd bet that a good game between two good SANFL teams versus two good VFL teams wouldn't be a lot different in skill and overall talent. Perhaps it would be a bit different if you were to compare things at the bottom end of each league.

With mature age recruits you want immediate results, sometimes without acknowledging they're facing a fair amount of the same issues younger recruits are facing. I'd be surprised if we actually thought Fuller was going to be an immediate impact player, irrespective of his struggles with Footscray this year.

Whether we drop him or not isn't really a worry for me. Perhaps he has more to give after another preseason.

[F'scary]

Re: Matthew Fuller

I'd bet that a good game between two good SANFL teams versus two good VFL teams wouldn't be a lot different in skill and overall talent. Perhaps it would be a bit different if you were to compare things at the bottom end of each league.

With mature age recruits you want immediate results, sometimes without acknowledging they're facing a fair amount of the same issues younger recruits are facing. I'd be surprised if we actually thought Fuller was going to be an immediate impact player, irrespective of his struggles with Footscray this year.

Whether we drop him or not isn't really a worry for me. Perhaps he has more to give after another preseason.

What do you think, Jeemak, about the scenario that we keep giving players one more season and we end up with a lot of list cloggers. I think we are very close to that right now. I think the strategy should be to clear a number of spots, let us say 6 to 9 and that requires some ruthlessness.

[jeemak]

Re: Matthew Fuller

This year we'll have Goodes, Howard, Williams and Giansiracusa opening spots up, with perhaps Pearce, Tutt and Higgins being candidates to either delist, trade or rookie (I'd personally shop Picken around to see if there's second round value available for his services - but I wouldn't have thought that move would be popular around here).

I don't actually see any of the rookies being given an upgrade this year, maybe aside from Redpath. Whilst Austin is getting games at present I'm not entirely convinced it's because we see him as our future, but I could be wrong.

So I think we'll have at least six spare spots on the senior list to fill plus a replenishment of the rookie list, which for me is sufficient.

Honouring a draftees contract is important, especially if there's not been any attitudinal issues affecting training and match performances.

[F'scary]

Re: Matthew Fuller

This year we'll have Goodes, Howard, Williams and Giansiracusa opening spots up, with perhaps Pearce, Tutt and Higgins being candidates to either delist, trade or rookie (I'd personally shop Picken around to see if there's second round value available for his services - but I wouldn't have thought that move would be popular around here).

I don't actually see any of the rookies being given an upgrade this year, maybe aside from Redpath. Whilst Austin is getting games at present I'm not entirely convinced it's because we see him as our future, but I could be wrong.

So I think we'll have at least six spare spots on the senior list to fill plus a replenishment of the rookie list, which for me is sufficient.

Honouring a draftees contract is important, especially if there's not been any attitudinal issues affecting training and match performances.

Thanks Jeemak, appreciate the insight.

[soupman]

Re: Matthew Fuller

This year we'll have Goodes, Howard, Williams and Giansiracusa opening spots up, with perhaps Pearce, Tutt and Higgins being candidates to either delist, trade or rookie (I'd personally shop Picken around to see if there's second round value available for his services - but I wouldn't have thought that move would be popular around here).

I don't actually see any of the rookies being given an upgrade this year, maybe aside from Redpath. Whilst Austin is getting games at present I'm not entirely convinced it's because we see him as our future, but I could be wrong.

So I think we'll have at least six spare spots on the senior list to fill plus a replenishment of the rookie list, which for me is sufficient.

Honouring a draftees contract is important, especially if there's not been any attitudinal issues affecting training and match performances.

Good summation.

I think the only complicating factor is that none of our rookies can be kept as rookies, because they all hit that three year wall now. Each one we promote takes one of those precious main list spots, and I would expect Austin will get promoted and at least one of Jong or Redpath (I don't necessarily agree with these calls, just what I think will happen).

[Sedat]

Re: Matthew Fuller

Whilst Austin is getting games at present I'm not entirely convinced it's because we see him as our future, but I could be wrong.

Austin was solid again today. He's doing everything asked of him to get upgraded to the senior list in 2015, and I think our key defensive stocks need every bit of reinforcement they can get.

[jeemak]

Re: Matthew Fuller

Austin was solid again today. He's doing everything asked of him to get upgraded to the senior list in 2015, and I think our key defensive stocks need every bit of reinforcement they can get.

With Morris entering his twilight it may be worthwhile in having Austin on the list for two years. I think he performed quite well yesterday and as you say, he has been solid in the second half of this year.

[F'scary]

Re: Matthew Fuller

Austin was solid again today. He's doing everything asked of him to get upgraded to the senior list in 2015, and I think our key defensive stocks need every bit of reinforcement they can get.

Week after week, he gets picked ahead of the obvious candidates.

[GVGjr]

Re: Matthew Fuller

Week after week, he gets picked ahead of the obvious candidates.

Because he is performing better. The match committee wants to win games.

[Throughandthrough]

Re: Matthew Fuller

Week after week, he gets picked ahead of the obvious candidates.

Curious comment. Aussie is playing every match like it might be his last. Need to bottle his g and d and spread it around.

[F'scary]

Re: Matthew Fuller

Curious comment. Aussie is playing every match like it might be his last. Need to bottle his g and d and spread it around.

My comment is to his credit.

[Twodogs]

Re: Matthew Fuller

My comment is to his credit.

As in he's keeping his place in he team on merit ahead of better creditentaled players.

[F'scary]

Re: Matthew Fuller

As in he's keeping his place in he team on merit ahead of better creditentaled players.

Yes 2D.