Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

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  • soupman
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2007
    • 5113

    #31
    Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

    The calls on Young never being up to it are imo unfair.

    He has played multiple impressive games where he has been both good defensively and a smart user of the ball. Unlike much of our defence he actually has composure when he gets the footy and is happy to assess his options while under pressure to pick the correct one. His disposal is good, while he is not quick he isn't slow and his height is an advantage as long as he doesn't have to play against the real kpp's.
    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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    • The Bulldogs Bite
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11246

      #32
      Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

      Originally posted by Scorlibo
      I'm getting sick of this tendency in games for us to play in spurts. I'm also getting sick of hearing Brendan refer to our down patches as a 'lack of intensity' or 'lack of concentration'. It seems more likely that B-Mac's philosophy of hunkering down when things 'aren't going our way' is flawed in that it gets the whole team thinking about stopping the opposition scoring rather than scoring ourselves. It seems like every game this season has seen us obliterated at one point or another, and not with even a hint that we might score ourselves.

      Rnd 1 vs West Coast: Q2-Q3 five unanswered goals.
      Rnd 2 vs North: Q4 four unanswered goals.
      Rnd 3 vs Richmond: Q3-Q4 five unanswered goals.
      Rnd 4 vs GWS: Q1 five unanswered goals.
      Rnd 5 vs Carlton: Q2 four unanswered goals.
      Rnd 6 vs Adelaide: Q2-Q4 EIGHT unanswered goals.
      Good point you raise and that's a damning stat.

      Pre-season focus was on improving our defensive game, but even throughout the pre-season we've been unable to control an opposition's swing of momentum. We also go right into our shells in the process, kicking backwards and sideways as well as pinging the ball around by hand to stationary targets. Frustrating stuff.
      W00F!

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15447

        #33
        Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

        Originally posted by Scorlibo
        I'm getting sick of this tendency in games for us to play in spurts. I'm also getting sick of hearing Brendan refer to our down patches as a 'lack of intensity' or 'lack of concentration'. It seems more likely that B-Mac's philosophy of hunkering down when things 'aren't going our way' is flawed in that it gets the whole team thinking about stopping the opposition scoring rather than scoring ourselves. It seems like every game this season has seen us obliterated at one point or another, and not with even a hint that we might score ourselves.

        Rnd 1 vs West Coast: Q2-Q3 five unanswered goals.
        Rnd 2 vs North: Q4 four unanswered goals.
        Rnd 3 vs Richmond: Q3-Q4 five unanswered goals.
        Rnd 4 vs GWS: Q1 five unanswered goals.
        Rnd 5 vs Carlton: Q2 four unanswered goals.
        Rnd 6 vs Adelaide: Q2-Q4 EIGHT unanswered goals.
        Agree with that.. At some point the excuses will run out.

        Yes, we are a young side with inexperienced players, but so too are our opposition... We just need to get better... QUICKLY.

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        • Scorlibo
          Coaching Staff
          • Oct 2007
          • 3087

          #34
          Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

          Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
          We also go right into our shells in the process, kicking backwards and sideways as well as pinging the ball around by hand to stationary targets. Frustrating stuff.
          Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about. To stop the opposition's momentum there has to be some courage and intent to score.
          'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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          • Bumper Bulldogs
            Coaching Staff
            • Apr 2008
            • 2969

            #35
            Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

            Bankers
            Boyd - Really playing well and the heart of the midfield group at the moment.
            Dickson - Looked like he was running freely and back wanting to get the ball & kick goals
            Stevens - I am not convinced on him totally, but today he ran and really made an effort.

            Anchors
            The Jones boy - Couldn't believe that he continually sat off the opposition while playing in the backline, Its really time that we look at a forward line without him, I thought Campbell gave us more today.
            Gia - Sorry mate after a fantastic career you have been left behind and were so slow. Maybe the sub suits best as you are fresh when everyone is buggered.
            Minson - You cant rest on last years form the first 3 quarters were shocking
            BB.

            Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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            • Scorlibo
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2007
              • 3087

              #36
              Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

              Originally posted by soupaman
              The calls on Young never being up to it are imo unfair.

              He has played multiple impressive games where he has been both good defensively and a smart user of the ball. Unlike much of our defence he actually has composure when he gets the footy and is happy to assess his options while under pressure to pick the correct one. His disposal is good, while he is not quick he isn't slow and his height is an advantage as long as he doesn't have to play against the real kpp's.
              I tend to agree. For mine, he's just so similar to Ryan Hargrave. Nice kick, generally makes good decisions, not quick but not slow either. Like Heggers, he's not overly competitive in aerial contests, even clumsy. There's a place in the side for Young, but he needs the right players around him.
              'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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              • MrMahatma
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2007
                • 3965

                #37
                Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

                Originally posted by Scorlibo
                I tend to agree. For mine, he's just so similar to Ryan Hargrave. Nice kick, generally makes good decisions, not quick but not slow either. Like Heggers, he's not overly competitive in aerial contests, even clumsy. There's a place in the side for Young, but he needs the right players around him.
                He's being asked to play key position. He's not a KPP.

                Some harsh calls on him I think. He's not the guy who didn't put enough effort in last week and got dropped. He's picking up Williams' slack.

                He's also covering for 2 injured team mates.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44637

                  #38
                  Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

                  Originally posted by soupaman
                  The calls on Young never being up to it are imo unfair.

                  He has played multiple impressive games where he has been both good defensively and a smart user of the ball. Unlike much of our defence he actually has composure when he gets the footy and is happy to assess his options while under pressure to pick the correct one. His disposal is good, while he is not quick he isn't slow and his height is an advantage as long as he doesn't have to play against the real kpp's.
                  I agree, he is being asked to play as a key defender at the moment despite being recruited more as a 3rd tall and performing well at that last year. He didn't play well but I think we are judging him too harshly to say he isn't up to it.
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                  • The Bulldogs Bite
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11246

                    #39
                    Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    I agree, he is being asked to play as a key defender at the moment despite being recruited more as a 3rd tall and performing well at that last year. He didn't play well but I think we are judging him too harshly to say he isn't up to it.
                    But he did play third tall for much of today though. He lined up on Lynch (although Young did shift around a bit) who is 'third tall' behind Pods and Jenkins and was poor from the get go.
                    W00F!

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44637

                      #40
                      Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

                      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                      But he did play third tall for much of today though. He lined up on Lynch (although Young did shift around a bit) who is 'third tall' behind Pods and Jenkins and was poor from the get go.
                      My reply is more around the fact he is being judged by some as not being up to it. I believe with Morris and Roughead in the line-up Young is a very viable 3rd tall defender. Not every week but I don't mind him as a 15 game per season type player.
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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #41
                        Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

                        Originally posted by always right
                        Personally I don't think anyone else could have played on Dangerfield and done as well. Dangerfield was very good but not the game breaker he can be.
                        Couldn't agree more, thought he battle his guts out today. That effort on most other A graders would have been enough.

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                        • Bulldog4life
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9607

                          #42
                          Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          My reply is more around the fact he is being judged by some as not being up to it. I believe with Morris and Roughead in the line-up Young is a very viable 3rd tall defender. Not every week but I don't mind him as a 15 game per season type player.
                          I agree Young can be a very good third tall defender but he needs a good 2nd tall defender and main tall defender around him playing well to show his worth. I still would like him in the team.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66709

                            #43
                            Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

                            Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                            But he did play third tall for much of today though. He lined up on Lynch (although Young did shift around a bit) who is 'third tall' behind Pods and Jenkins and was poor from the get go.
                            Lynch was just about BOG.
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                            • The Bulldogs Bite
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 11246

                              #44
                              Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Lynch was just about BOG.
                              Yep, gave Young a bath.

                              Young has been led to the ball with ridiculous regularity over the past two weeks. It's not as though he's been beaten in a battle of strength.
                              W00F!

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                              • Ozza
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 6401

                                #45
                                Re: Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

                                Bankers-
                                Boyd- was terrific all game. No doubt many will focus on the time he missed a shot on goal. But he won almost every contest he was involved in, hit targets (inside 50 included) and body lined the ball many times.
                                Wood- possibly the best game he's played for the club.
                                Cooney- broke the lines and gave us spark.

                                Anchors-
                                Jones obviously had a shocker. He was definitely lost in the forward structure with Campbell/Minson being down there which left Jones in no mans land on a flank.
                                Gia- couldn't get involved. Probably can't have him and Dickson (and Hunter) in the same team.
                                Umpiring was disgraceful and bad calls shifted momentum in the game.
                                A crowd of 17,000 with a pretty decent contingent of crows supporters is disgraceful. How we could expect to get a Good Friday game or any other marquee fixtures when our supporters and barrackers simply don't show up.....zero atmosphere today.

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