Bankers and Anchors - Round 6

[Remi Moses]

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Agree on Young . Having an okay player( Beeing nice) in Lynch cut you to pieces isn't ideal.

[G-Mo77]

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Can't see how posters can defend Young. Morris, Roughie are out, ok that hurts. Put them in Lynch still gives him a bath but at least he have the flexibility of moving Morris over. Young still is a liability after a switch. Williams got reamed by everyone last week but Young deserves some slack for his pathetic effort today and previously? I'll throw up if I see him play next week.

[Remi Moses]

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Bankers-
Boyd- was terrific all game. No doubt many will focus on the time he missed a shot on goal. But he won almost every contest he was involved in, hit targets (inside 50 included) and body lined the ball many times.
Wood- possibly the best game he's played for the club.
Cooney- broke the lines and gave us spark.

Anchors-
Jones obviously had a shocker. He was definitely lost in the forward structure with Campbell/Minson being down there which left Jones in no mans land on a flank.
Gia- couldn't get involved. Probably can't have him and Dickson (and Hunter) in the same team.
Umpiring was disgraceful and bad calls shifted momentum in the game.
A crowd of 17,000 with a pretty decent contingent of crows supporters is disgraceful. How we could expect to get a Good Friday game or any other marquee fixtures when our supporters and barrackers simply don't show up.....zero atmosphere today.

What an embarrassment ! I know there's a few here who don't rock up for various reasons, but those who can just a reminder you'll have no team to follow if you keep that p*** poor excuse up!!
Ask a fitzroy fan on what it's like to have no team to follow!

[Scorlibo]

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Can't see how posters can defend Young. Morris, Roughie are out, ok that hurts. Put them in Lynch still gives him a bath but at least he have the flexibility of moving Morris over. Young still is a liability after a switch. Williams got reamed by everyone last week but Young deserves some slack for his pathetic effort today and previously? I'll throw up if I see him play next week.

Can only speak for myself but I'm not disputing that he was awful and deserves to be dropped. I'm disputing the call that he has no future in the AFL.

[G-Mo77]

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Can only speak for myself but I'm not disputing that he was awful and deserves to be dropped. I'm disputing the call that he has no future in the AFL.

I'll dispute that.

Just can't see any traits to his game that will benefit us now or beyond. Aside from being a depth player I see no point in having him on the list and if he's just there for depth are we better off trying someone else?

Does anyone honestly see him best 22? Even best 25?

I don't see anything in him, never really have to be perfectly honest.

[LostDoggy]

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Bankers:
1. Wood. Good game.
2. Macrae, likewise.
3. Jones. Just in case he's reading the thread. Don't slit your wrists just yet Liam.

Anchors:
1. Stevens. Have taken to calling him The Ambulance. If there was a Champion Data stat for hospital hand balls he'd nail it week in week out.
2. Every player out there, long bombing when we're getting killed in the air. Dumb football boys.
3. Dangerfield. You're a champion, just please go away.

Would've mentioned that green bastard Mc------- but don't want to say his name. I'm angry enough.

[The bulldog tragician]

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1. Wood's form this year has been a real highlight.
2. Boyd Is having a terrific season
3. dahl's live wire second half only underscored how much he went missing in the first, but he nearly got us over the line.

Anchors:
1. Liam Jones. Ok, he's not a defender. But that was just a performance that shook my persistent faith that he will become a really valuable player one day.
2. Match committee: um, puzzling. No Morris, no extra tall? ( I actually thought Stringer initially did well on Pods, until the inevitable brute strength, height and a couple of flags began to tell). Campbell subbed off when Gia looked cooked? I don't understand.. Also why was Bonts named, then omitted?
3. Shane 'the perm' McInerney. We remember you...

[Bulldog4life]

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Bankers:
1. Wood. Good game.
2. Macrae, likewise.
3. Jones. Just in case he's reading the thread. Don't slit your wrists just yet Liam.

Anchors:
1. Stevens. Have taken to calling him The Ambulance. If there was a Champion Data stat for hospital hand balls he'd nail it week in week out.
2. Every player out there, long bombing when we're getting killed in the air. Dumb football boys.
3. Dangerfield. You're a champion, just please go away.

Would've mentioned that green bastard Mc------- but don't want to say his name. I'm angry enough.

I reckon you could have pledged your support in Jonesy in another thread rather than have him as an anchor BAS.

[soupman]

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Can only speak for myself but I'm not disputing that he was awful and deserves to be dropped. I'm disputing the call that he has no future in the AFL.

Same. He can be dropped that's fine, but to say he has no future I think is stupid.

I'll dispute that.

Just can't see any traits to his game that will benefit us now or beyond. Aside from being a depth player I see no point in having him on the list and if he's just there for depth are we better off trying someone else?

Does anyone honestly see him best 22? Even best 25?

I don't see anything in him, never really have to be perfectly honest.

Have you not seen the first half of last season? Or the game against GWS?

When he has a structure around him (ie. real tall defenders that offer support) and gets to play on someone closer to his size he generally does well (not yesterday, yesterday was disappointing).

Young is one of the few composed players we have when he gets the ball, he delivers nice long kicks and is able to find the ball with something resembling regularity. Prior to the last couple of games I don't recall him being beaten badly by his opponent, and while on occasion he does lose contests too easily he also wins some he shouldn't at times.

As for not being best 22/25, our defence atm hasn't got any real depth anyway so he is in the best 25 by default regardless of whether you rate him. Certainly he is ahead of Howard, Pearce, Fuller and even JJ on current form. Talia has been just as poor in the games he has played as well and he is actually playing the position we envisage him playing for his career.

Way too early to write him off. He is capable of being a good solid player, and until we have someone demanding his spot on the list then he sticks around, because he is not the worst prospect we are paying.

[G-Mo77]

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Have you not seen the first half of last season? Or the game against GWS?

Don't go down that road. You're better than that.

When he has a structure around him (ie. real tall defenders that offer support) and gets to play on someone closer to his size he generally does well (not yesterday, yesterday was disappointing).

Young is one of the few composed players we have when he gets the ball, he delivers nice long kicks and is able to find the ball with something resembling regularity. Prior to the last couple of games I don't recall him being beaten badly by his opponent, and while on occasion he does lose contests too easily he also wins some he shouldn't at times.

As for not being best 22/25, our defence atm hasn't got any real depth anyway so he is in the best 25 by default regardless of whether you rate him. Certainly he is ahead of Howard, Pearce, Fuller and even JJ on current form. Talia has been just as poor in the games he has played as well and he is actually playing the position we envisage him playing for his career.

Way too early to write him off. He is capable of being a good solid player, and until we have someone demanding his spot on the list then he sticks around, because he is not the worst prospect we are paying.

Key word there is default. He's playing because everyone else has fallen over. He adds depth I'll grant that, so sadly if Morris doesn't get up he'll play next week, he'll probably play next week anyway. I don't see him threatening anyone if our back half his healthy and think we'd be better off drafting rather than having a player clogging the list another year or two which we tend to do more often than not.

I break it down like this. He's a defender we can't play him anywhere else. He's not a KPD and he's too slow to play off the HBF. He makes poor defensive decisions which makes him a liability in the back half. I just don't see what value he adds beyond his contract. I'm happy for him to prove me wrong and to wear "I told you so's", I'm sure I'll get a one or two before the end of season. Doubt I'll get many though.

I've seen his best and his worst, maybe I see things differently. I can't see any value in Young at all.

[soupman]

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Don't go down that road. You're better than that.

I wasn't having a go. His first half of last season was very respectable.

Key word there is default. He's playing because everyone else has fallen over. He adds depth I'll grant that, so sadly if Morris doesn't get up he'll play next week, he'll probably play next week anyway. I don't see him threatening anyone if our back half his healthy and think we'd be better off drafting rather than having a player clogging the list another year or two which we tend to do more often than not.

I break it down like this. He's a defender we can't play him anywhere else. He's not a KPD and he's too slow to play off the HBF. He makes poor defensive decisions which makes him a liability in the back half. I just don't see what value he adds beyond his contract. I'm happy for him to prove me wrong and to wear "I told you so's", I'm sure I'll get a one or two before the end of season. Doubt I'll get many though.

I've seen his best and his worst, maybe I see things differently. I can't see any value in Young at all.

Yeah I get that he isn't the bees knees, but he does have some good attributes and I obviously remain unconvinced that he is incapable of being a decent player. I guess this is the point where we agree to disagree instead of going in circles.

[Mofra]

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Bankers:
- Boyd. Yes he has his faults, but other players should take a good look at a limited footballer who simply busts his arse for 4 quarters
- Murphy. Only only gameplan in the backline seems to be give the ball to him.
- Wood. Getting some continuity in his game and gettign better as the season wears on.

Anchors:
- The use of the sub. I've found it a little baffling this year - Jones was a non-factor and we sub off Campbell, then deny he had a quad issue?
- I can forgive Jones & Young for having poor games (and Jones in particular had a shocker after a few decent games) but senior players must stand up when it counts. Gia didn't. Dickson's game playign a similar position made it all the more glaring.
- Is Libba injured? He seems to be labouring and for all his work in close he's gone backwards in run & spread and finding space

[LostDoggy]

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I reckon you could have pledged your support in Jonesy in another thread rather than have him as an anchor BAS.

It was a bit tongue-in-cheek. I could only list two bankers anyway.

[Mantis]

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- Is Libba injured? He seems to be labouring and for all his work in close he's gone backwards in run & spread and finding space

Agree in part, but his last qtr was outstanding.. He was one of our few players that was running on top of the ground late in the game.

[Ozza]

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Agree in part, but his last qtr was outstanding.. He was one of our few players that was running on top of the ground late in the game.

Libba's last quarters have been very good this year. Very common for him to have 15 or 16 touches at 3 qtr time - and finish up with 25 or 26 - and as Mantis says, he was running well and getting the footy outside as well late doors.

He is working through some pretty heavy (and increased) attention this season, and its encouraging that he isn't dropping his bundle, but rather, working through the tag to get better as the game goes on.