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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14976

    #61
    Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
    I think Dahl is (or should be) untouchable for a variety of reasons.

    I would be (hesitantly) open to trading Smith or Hrovat for the right price - would need to be very good though.
    I am completely biased towards him but Smith is one player I want to keep above almost all others.
    He is made for finals.
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14976

      #62
      Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

      Originally posted by Greystache
      If Sydney really rated him they wouldn't have destroyed their salary cap and COLA buying both Franklin AND Tippett.
      Good point, although there is already a BF rumour about us going hard after him at this years' trade table (and BF rumours are right almost 2% of the time!)

      Agree with bt - we want a player that complements not replicates what he gives us.
      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #63
        Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

        Swans would have Reid earmarked longer term for KP down back. They've got an ageing list of defenders, especially with height. We've seen he's already been tried there.

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          #64
          Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

          Originally posted by M.R.M
          Swans would have Reid earmarked longer term for KP down back. They've got an ageing list of defenders, especially with height. We've seen he's already been tried there.
          Not sure about him as a Backmen though.
          Looked lost in the Hawthorn game a few weeks ago

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          • Remi Moses
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 14785

            #65
            Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

            Originally posted by Mofra
            What does Sam Reid possess that Liam Jones doesn't?

            It's hard to compare the two as Reid has rarely attracted the no 1 opposition backman.
            Better player than Jones. Last year was a right off for him injury wise, and I'm not saying sell the farm for Reid.
            I think most neutral judges would have Reid ahead of Jones. Reid attracted the best defender in their flag year and when he played last season.

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              #66
              Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

              Originally posted by Greystache
              I can't work out the excitement over Reid either, he hasn't improved in 2 years.

              If Sydney really rated him they wouldn't have destroyed their salary cap and COLA buying both Franklin AND Tippett.
              They get an extra million each year.
              They haven't destroyed their COLA( although 2017 will be interesting)
              They've lost Mummy and got Tippet and Buddy in.

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14976

                #67
                Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                Better player than Jones. Last year was a right off for him injury wise, and I'm not saying sell the farm for Reid.
                I think most neutral judges would have Reid ahead of Jones. Reid attracted the best defender in their flag year and when he played last season.
                Over Goodes?
                O'Keefe did a lot of the hard leading in 2012 and Mike Pyke attracted monster defenders too.
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                • Hot_Doggies
                  Rookie List
                  • May 2009
                  • 396

                  #68
                  Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  There are no two closer players I can almost ever think of than Liam Jones and Sam Reid, they to me are clones, dead set. I have enough problem with one of them constantly frustrating me, 2 would give me severe hypertension. And to that end, Reid plays 4th tall, can't imagine he'd be any better than Jones at playing 1st tall either. Membrey is the kid to target if the Swans cantal him what other clubs might.

                  Haven't seen much of Membrey this year, obviously you have been watching him closely.

                  How has he been going?

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #69
                    Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                    Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
                    Haven't seen much of Membrey this year, obviously you have been watching him closely.

                    How has he been going?
                    I've been more interested in him, than a close watcher. He's been only on my radar as surely Sydney can't keep all their forwards recently drafted, considering Buddy, Tippett, Reid etc, etc. ** But. He's not a KPP, he'd be 190cm by now, more Jarrad Grant than Barry Hall if anyone thinks he's a gorilla FF. But he still has been kicking goals in the twos as well.

                    His TAC Cup numbers were fascinating or at least interesting, at the time, as on pure output stats, he seemed a good get as low as he was taken, they were:

                    Tim Membrey

                    Pick No: 46 (Sydney Swans)
                    Age: 18
                    Height: 189cm
                    Weight: 88kg
                    Junior Club: Tedas JFC
                    TAC Cup Season Statistics:
                    Games: 13*
                    Kicks: 132 (ave. 10.1)
                    Handballs: 52 (ave. 4)
                    Marks: 74 (ave. 5.7)
                    Goals: 49 (ave. 3.8)
                    Tackles: 39 (ave. 3)
                    Highlights:

                    Finished 3rd on the TAC Cup Goal Kicking Leaderboard for the 2012 Home & Away Season
                    Representative of the 2012 Vic Country Academy Squad
                    Selected as a member of the 2012 TAC Cup Team of the Year
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • Scorlibo
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3087

                      #70
                      Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      Tim Membrey
                      Height: 189cm
                      Enough said.
                      'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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                      • Hot_Doggies
                        Rookie List
                        • May 2009
                        • 396

                        #71
                        Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        I've been more interested in him, than a close watcher. He's been only on my radar as surely Sydney can't keep all their forwards recently drafted, considering Buddy, Tippett, Reid etc, etc. ** But. He's not a KPP, he'd be 190cm by now, more Jarrad Grant than Barry Hall if anyone thinks he's a gorilla FF. But he still has been kicking goals in the twos as well.

                        His TAC Cup numbers were fascinating or at least interesting, at the time, as on pure output stats, he seemed a good get as low as he was taken, they were:

                        Tim Membrey

                        Pick No: 46 (Sydney Swans)
                        Age: 18
                        Height: 189cm
                        Weight: 88kg
                        Junior Club: Tedas JFC
                        TAC Cup Season Statistics:
                        Games: 13*
                        Kicks: 132 (ave. 10.1)
                        Handballs: 52 (ave. 4)
                        Marks: 74 (ave. 5.7)
                        Goals: 49 (ave. 3.8)
                        Tackles: 39 (ave. 3)
                        Highlights:

                        Finished 3rd on the TAC Cup Goal Kicking Leaderboard for the 2012 Home & Away Season
                        Representative of the 2012 Vic Country Academy Squad
                        Selected as a member of the 2012 TAC Cup Team of the Year
                        So why is he 'the player we should target'??

                        Surely you must have more info than 2012 TAC stats

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #72
                          Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                          Originally posted by Scorlibo
                          Enough said.
                          I would be open at the right price. And it wouldn't be high at all, but I'd consider him to take the forward position vacated by Gia. If Stringer and Crameri are going to move through the midfield in the longer term plan, he's not a bad acquisition. He's not the KPF to throw the house at, if that's the point.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #73
                            Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                            Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
                            So why is he 'the player we should target'??

                            Surely you must have more info than 2012 TAC stats
                            His stats last year were decent too, admitedly at a lower level than VFL. I'm not too sure if I ever said he was the player we should target, particularly in terms of a KPF option, I apologise if I wasn't clear. Just google him and you will get his stats for last few years at various levels. As my post which followed this, I've said he is not a KPP. What he is, is a forward I would look at to take the place Gia has on the list. We don't need more 175cm clever forwards, but if the plan is to move Jake & Stew through the midfield as Macca has suggested as being the longterm plan means we could do with another utility sized forward now with Bob and Higgins in the back half. Quite obviously I wouldn't throw the farm at him, never suggested it. But Sydney as squeezed for forwards, maybe he wants back to Vic and maybe he says he wants to walk to us or trade for very little, so we get a good kids for bugger all, if you call that targeting, or not, make of it as you will. In those circumstances, he would be like a Young or Darley option of taking a highly rated youngster and hoping to further develop them. In the debate of gun KPFs, we are going to need to part with a star or hope to finish top 3 or 4 and that who we do get (McCartin or Goddard, assuming Wright goes higher) makes the grade.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Hot_Doggies
                              Rookie List
                              • May 2009
                              • 396

                              #74
                              Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              His stats last year were decent too, admitedly at a lower level than VFL. I'm not too sure if I ever said he was the player we should target, particularly in terms of a KPF option, I apologise if I wasn't clear. Just google him and you will get his stats for last few years at various levels. As my post which followed this, I've said he is not a KPP. What he is, is a forward I would look at to take the place Gia has on the list. We don't need more 175cm clever forwards, but if the plan is to move Jake & Stew through the midfield as Macca has suggested as being the longterm plan means we could do with another utility sized forward now with Bob and Higgins in the back half. Quite obviously I wouldn't throw the farm at him, never suggested it. But Sydney as squeezed for forwards, maybe he wants back to Vic and maybe he says he wants to walk to us or trade for very little, so we get a good kids for bugger all, if you call that targeting, or not, make of it as you will. In those circumstances, he would be like a Young or Darley option of taking a highly rated youngster and hoping to further develop them. In the debate of gun KPFs, we are going to need to part with a star or hope to finish top 3 or 4 and that who we do get (McCartin or Goddard, assuming Wright goes higher) makes the grade.
                              Fair enough.

                              -you did say 'target Membrey' in post 60.

                              -Hunter is taller than he looks

                              -Sam Reid can play

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #75
                                Re: Trade Targets come Season End??

                                Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
                                Fair enough.

                                -you did say 'target Membrey' in post 68.

                                -Hunter is taller than he looks

                                -Sam Reid can play
                                Fair enough, I would absolutely target Membrey fwiw as a forward replacement for Gia as I described. I'd promise a nice new club in Victoria and maybe he should look for more opportunities. Maybe walks for pick 4 in the PSD and we get something for nothing. So yes, I would target him as all those other big Sydney forwards will be ahead of him so he doesn't spend another year in the Sydney reserves kicking 50 or whatever he kicked last year. When do you think we targeted Darley, this time last year or after the season?

                                Reid is nowhere near the top on my list, for what Sydney would want in picks and him in cash, preying on GWS and GCS represents better use of our time and attention IMO.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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