Match Committee- Round 11 vs Fremantle

[Bornadog]

Re: Match Committee- Round 11 vs Fremantle

Outs : Goodes, Stevens, Gia, Cooney*

Ins : Talia, Grant, Hrovat, JJ*

*pending MRP analysis.

How much fun will it be to see Picken vs Ballantyne this week?

Cooney in but Smith charged two games.

[jeemak]

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I can't really recall what Smith did. There's no footage on the AFL site as yet either.

[LostDoggy]

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Its funny the stats say otherwise, but of course posters will say stats lie.

Minson - amongst top ruckman

Hitouts - number 2 (less by 6)
Cont poss - top 5
Clearances - second
Stoppages - second
Cont Marks - close second, but Sandilands double everyone else.
Centre Clearances - equal third
Disposals - 4th

Sandilands is the best ruckman, the others come no where near Minson for hitouts and he holds his own for other stats.

He may not be playing as well as last year, but he is also not as bad as is being made out.

Finally some sense... Campbell would be finished against Sandilands at half time

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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There would be a dozen ruckmen in the competition that have added strings to their bow. Some can drift forward and become dangerous (Hale, Ryder, Sandi), some read the play and have elite fitness to link up (Cox), some are brilliant at giving their mids quality hitouts to advantage (Warnock, Jacobs) some get down and dirty to clear a path for the mids to win clearances (Mummy, Grundy, etc..). Minno used to do this grunt work last year but it has been sadly missing from his repertoire in 2014. He has really lacked contributions in all other areas mentioned

What you are saying in effect is that Minson is struggling this year which has become pretty obvious.
His inability to match it now with taller ruck men is a big concern. I would prefer to see Campbell start in the ruck at the weekend against Sandilands. Team selection has become very predictable with also little imagination being shown by the MC on match days.

[F'scary]

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Now that I have calmed down after THAT 3rd quarter, I think the only way forward is to keep playing the younger players, including players like Stevens & Young, and accept that it may take another 20-40 games for significant improvement in results to come.

After all, just 2 seasons ago, Gold Coast, with pretty much the same team they have now, was skating along the bottom.

[Bornadog]

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Well now that Smith is certain to miss, need to re look at the ins and outs.

In: Redpath, Hrovat, Howard, Grant

Out: Goodes, Stevens, Bonti and Smith

Wallis showing good form as well in the VFL. Like to keep Bonti in but I also would like to see Hrovat in. Perhaps Gia gets another rest???

[azabob]

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Wallis showing good form as well in the VFL. Like to keep Bonti in but I also would like to see Hrovat in. Perhaps Gia gets another rest???[/COLOR]

Bonti is clearly a talent, but he seems to be looking a bit lost, not sure why. Perhaps he is used to more support around the ball carrier etc?

[Mantis]

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Well now that Smith is certain to miss, need to re look at the ins and outs.

In: Redpath, Hrovat, Howard, Grant

Out: Goodes, Stevens, Bonti and Smith

Wallis showing good form as well in the VFL. Like to keep Bonti in but I also would like to see Hrovat in. Perhaps Gia gets another rest???

What will Howard add that we don't already have? ie. slow & can't kick.

[always right]

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What will Howard add that we don't already have? ie. slow & can't kick.

His form the last two weeks warrants an opportunity otherwise why was he retained on the list? You and I don't rate Howard but the fact is he was given another year because Macca still sees something in him so it would make no sense not to elevate him when his form justifies it.

[Mofra]

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Bonti is clearly a talent, but he seems to be looking a bit lost, not sure why. Perhaps he is used to more support around the ball carrier etc?

He looked like Wallis in his second year - getting led to the ball, only had time to handball not getting into space to kick it.

He may be dominating in some VFL games but he really needs another pre-season to be AFL ready.

[always right]

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Bonti is clearly a talent, but he seems to be looking a bit lost, not sure why. Perhaps he is used to more support around the ball carrier etc?

Perhaps it's because he is 18 and in his first year. Why do we expect young blokes to come into the seniors and instantly look at home? Clearly he is not ready to have a significant impact but there is merit in exposing him to the pressure of AFL as quickly and as often as possible.

[Bornadog]

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His form the last two weeks warrants an opportunity otherwise why was he retained on the list? You and I don't rate Howard but the fact is he was given another year because Macca still sees something in him so it would make no sense not to elevate him when his form justifies it.

You answered nicely for me.

[LostDoggy]

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Outs: Smith, Goodes, Gia, Cooney, Roberts,
Ins: Hrovat, Howard, Grant, Wallis, Redpath

Reward the form of those at VFL level. Grant and Redpath will offer the forward line dynamics that we have missed most of the season. Roberts unlucky but i really can’t see a match up to suit him. Big game for Howard.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

Re: Match Committee- Round 11 vs Fremantle

Well now that Smith is certain to miss, need to re look at the ins and outs.

In: Redpath, Hrovat, Howard, Grant

Out: Goodes, Stevens, Bonti and Smith

Wallis showing good form as well in the VFL. Like to keep Bonti in but I also would like to see Hrovat in. Perhaps Gia gets another rest???

I have included Young at the expense of Howard because I think he is a better player. I would also include Campbell as I am not convinced that Minson can match Sandilands on his own. Stringer would be the player to make way for Campbell. I also have a preference to retain Bontempelli and include Hrovat as you have suggested with Gia making way. I also think it is timely to expose Redpath at AFL level given our failure to unearth a quality key forward.

[Bulldog Joe]

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I have included Young at the expense of Howard because I think he is a better player. I would also include Campbell as I am not convinced that Minson can match Sandilands on his own. Stringer would be the player to make way for Campbell. I also have a preference to retain Bontempelli and include Hrovat as you have suggested with Gia making way. I also think it is timely to expose Redpath at AFL level given our failure to unearth a quality key forward.

Not sure how throwing Campbell in would improve our chances. It would however, reduce our run.

I would like to see Redpath get a go, but it is likely to be Williams if he comes up from the injury.