Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

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  • always right
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 4189

    Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

    Okay...it probably won't happen but Jeremy Cameron has put his contract talks on hold which has led to speculation around a return to Victoria. As usual the big clubs will circle including the club he barracks for (Collingwood) but is this our moment, the chance to make a big statement to supporters?

    Is Cameron the KPF we've been looking for? Not exactly a pack mark but a genuine KPF nonetheless with some elite attributes. If he is the one we need, it's going to take something pretty special to get him into the red white and blue. Starting point is our first draft pick but we will need to throw something else at him and we're not talking steak knives.

    Who would you trade that has real currency? Please don't throw up the usual suspects...this is going to need us to bite the bullet and give up someone very good for someone who might make our team great. Here's a list of players I think are up for consideration and those who I think are off limits;

    Off Limits
    Libba
    Griffen
    Dahlhaus
    Roughy
    McCrae
    Bontempelli

    Most currency
    Stringer
    Hrovat
    Talia
    Hunter
    Minson
    Cooney
    Crameri

    Next tier
    JJ
    Wood
    Grant
    Dickson
    Campbell
    Wallis

    The rest are either too old or have little currency in terms of GWS needs. Would you give up any of the top bracket with the most currency if it mean't getting the KPF we've longed for? Hopefully I haven't missed anyone significant.
    I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.
  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21830

    #2
    Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

    First pick and Jack Macrae or Dahlhaus would be required to get it done. I'd almost do it, seriously.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • always right
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 4189

      #3
      Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

      I was thinking first pick plus Stringer.
      I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21830

        #4
        Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

        Whoever we give up in addition to our first pick would need to come along with exposed quality form. At this point I don't think Stringer has enough of that, though by the end of the season he may have.

        I have a level of reluctance to give up Stringer based around him likely to turn out to be a goal kicking midfielder/forward who will be hard to match up on in the air and at ground level once he matures. Those types of players are very difficult to find.
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15310

          #5
          Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

          If we are serious, the only two off limits are Roughead and Liberatore.

          But I wouldn't even entertain it, not worth giving up the first pick and one of the others you listed in your untouchables file.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15310

            #6
            Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

            Guys and Gals, to clarify isn't he signed up until end of 2015 not 2014?
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • always right
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 4189

              #7
              Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

              Originally posted by azabob
              If we are serious, the only two off limits are Roughead and Liberatore.

              But I wouldn't even entertain it, not worth giving up the first pick and one of the others you listed in your untouchables file.
              I wasn't suggesting we give up anyone of the untouchables (off limits), hence the term untouchables. I'm looking at the "most currency" bracket.
              I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15310

                #8
                Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

                Originally posted by always right
                I wasn't suggesting we give up anyone of the untouchables (off limits), hence the term untouchables. I'm looking at the "most currency" bracket.
                Fair enough.

                I think Talia would be of most interest due to their lack of key defenders and Talia has shown promise in that role, albeit he has stagnated breifly this year.

                I still think we'd need to package up Talia & Stringer or Talia and Hrovat and our first round draft pick.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • always right
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 4189

                  #9
                  Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  Fair enough.

                  I think Talia would be of most interest due to their lack of key defenders and Talia has shown promise in that role, albeit he has stagnated breifly this year.

                  I still think we'd need to package up Talia & Stringer or Talia and Hrovat and our first round draft pick.
                  I reckon that would be overs......but maybe that's what it will take.
                  I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #10
                    Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

                    I think the best approach would be to try and snare another early pick from another club.

                    In my opinion Roughy, Libba, Griffen and Dal would be about the only players they would consider with our first pick.

                    Brisbane need a bit of everything and will have a very early pick by the looks. But again we would need to give up quality to get the pick off them.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

                      Originally posted by azabob
                      Guys and Gals, to clarify isn't he signed up until end of 2015 not 2014?
                      Yes, 2015, but that just means it has to be a trade. 2015 would mean PSD.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #12
                        Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

                        The Judd deal from memory was Pick 3, 20 and Kennedy. Getting Cameron would take something similiar I would suggest.

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                        • mighty_west
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3439

                          #13
                          Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

                          Whoever they want plus our first round pick, he will be a genuine superstar make no mistake and the bidding war on this kid will be enormous.

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27655

                            #14
                            Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

                            Originally posted by Jaytee
                            The Judd deal from memory was Pick 3, 20 and Kennedy. Getting Cameron would take something similiar I would suggest.

                            Carlton paid way overs for Judd. In all reality what has Judd's presence done for them? Has it won them a flag? Has it even moved them closer to a flag? Who is more likely to play in a premiership, Judd or Kennedy-I'd say Kennedy.

                            In a way it's the curse of a player nominating your club. Sure it's great that a big name player thinks your club is well enough run and is close enough to success to want to come and play for you but it's a double edged sword. It means you now are more or less obliged to make his trade work and gives the player's original club the whip hand. In Judd's case West Coast could sit back and make demands
                            Knowing that nong-head Caaaaarlton supporters would burn down Optus Oval if the trade wasn't done.

                            In this case if Cameron wants to come and we can work out a trade that is beneficial and fair (our first pick and maybe a player) to both clubs then great. But if we can't and he goes somewhere else that's great too, we can draft and develop our own.
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15310

                              #15
                              Re: Jeremy Cameron...what would you give up?

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              , we can draft and develop our own.
                              From a key forward perspective how's that worked out for us?
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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