2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

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  • The Pie Man
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2008
    • 3497

    Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

    Originally posted by Murphy'sLore
    That is the closest thing to a massive bake I have ever heard BMac serve up - very unusual. Macrae must be in big trouble.
    Clearly he wanted to make a public point to Jackson - without knowing what these 'non-negotiables' are that he's not adhering to, I don't like the media spray.

    He's a developing attacking weapon - does everyone have to play inside/accountable football 100% of the time?
    Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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    • always right
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 4189

      Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

      Originally posted by The Pie Man
      Clearly he wanted to make a public point to Jackson - without knowing what these 'non-negotiables' are that he's not adhering to, I don't like the media spray.

      He's a developing attacking weapon - does everyone have to play inside/accountable football 100% of the time?
      Who says it's about inside/accountable football?
      I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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      • The Bulldogs Bite
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 11246

        Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

        Originally posted by The Pie Man
        Clearly he wanted to make a public point to Jackson - without knowing what these 'non-negotiables' are that he's not adhering to, I don't like the media spray.

        He's a developing attacking weapon - does everyone have to play inside/accountable football 100% of the time?
        I don't like it either, particularly given senior players have escaped this kind of criticism.

        It does seem like we try to knock any type of creative flair out of players, by drilling them with the "defensive aspects of the game".

        Meanwhile, we're still crap defensively and have hardly improved in this area in 3 years.
        W00F!

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21831

          Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

          Ok, well if he reverts back to boring old Bmac next week don't complain.

          It wasn't a spray either, it was just honest feedback that Macrae would no doubt have received face to face.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • The Pie Man
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2008
            • 3497

            Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

            Originally posted by always right
            Who says it's about inside/accountable football?
            Technicality - I'd be very confident that's what it is. But yes, I could be wrong, and there's no quote to support my contention.
            Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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            • The Pie Man
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2008
              • 3497

              Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

              Originally posted by jeemak
              Ok, well if he reverts back to boring old Bmac next week don't complain.

              It wasn't a spray either, it was just honest feedback that Macrae would no doubt have received face to face.
              No doubt that feedback was given directly - but saying in a press conference that he was 'lucky to be playing' is a bit of a sting. I'm comfortable calling it a spray
              Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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              • always right
                WOOF Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 4189

                Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

                Originally posted by The Pie Man
                Technicality - I'd be very confident that's what it is. But yes, I could be wrong, and there's no quote to support my contention.
                Perhaps it might simply be a case of knowing where your player is when we don't have the ball. Must say I did notice watching the second half that Macrae seemed to be floating back and forward without anyone closeby. I thought at the time it was strange that he didn't seem to be playing on anyone. We certainly need his creativity but we don't want his opponent running around unchallenged either.
                I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21831

                  Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

                  Just listened to it again, and I guess we have different interpretations of what constitutes a spray!

                  Certainly strong and pointed words, no doubt.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • The Pie Man
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2008
                    • 3497

                    Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

                    Originally posted by always right
                    Perhaps it might simply be a case of knowing where your player is when we don't have the ball. Must say I did notice watching the second half that Macrae seemed to be floating back and forward without anyone closeby. I thought at the time it was strange that he didn't seem to be playing on anyone. We certainly need his creativity but we don't want his opponent running around unchallenged either.
                    Fair enough, balance I guess is the key
                    Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                    • chef
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 14622

                      Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

                      Originally posted by jeemak
                      Just listened to it again, and I guess we have different interpretations of what constitutes a spray!

                      Certainly strong and pointed words, no doubt.
                      Eade would be shaking his head with that being called a spray
                      The curse is dead.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44645

                        Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

                        Originally posted by Scorlibo
                        The whole season I've been concerned about the amount of uncontested football that Macrae has been winning. He's been pretty regularly racking up 20+ uncontested touches - which says a fair bit about his ability to get to the right places but also means that he has the onus on him to use the ball in a damaging manner. When he's not doing that, the ball comes back the other way and whoever Jack has left on his own from the other team can hurt us.

                        He needs to start winning more contested ball because for all the plaudits coming his way this season, every elite midfielder in the competition wins at least 40% of their ball in the contest. Jack's going at something like 25%. He's only young, but bad habits stick easily and we want him to be more than an Andrew Gaff, Nathan Eagleton or Bachar Houli.
                        Excellent piece of analysis. Thanks
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44645

                          Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

                          Originally posted by The Pie Man
                          Clearly he wanted to make a public point to Jackson - without knowing what these 'non-negotiables' are that he's not adhering to, I don't like the media spray.

                          He's a developing attacking weapon - does everyone have to play inside/accountable football 100% of the time?
                          You're damned if you do and if you don't. People wanted answers on why Macrae was used as a sub but now that they get a non emotive but detailed answer we are now a bit gun shy if it was the right thing to do. Might be one of those can't win situations where any answer provided will be seen as wrong.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • westdog54
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6686

                            Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

                            Loved hearing Macca say the players got some 'strong feedback' about not sticking to the plan. Would have loved to hear it first hand.

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                            • boydogs
                              WOOF Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 5844

                              Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

                              Originally posted by Scorlibo
                              The whole season I've been concerned about the amount of uncontested football that Macrae has been winning.
                              He's the man we want to have the ball, not Boyd, Wallis, Stevens or Picken.

                              We need some of the other outside players to come on to share the load like Bonts & Hrovat, but he's been doing well to provide an option on the outside and use the ball well this year
                              If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                              Formerly gogriff

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                              • G-Mo77
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9876

                                Re: 2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

                                Originally posted by Murphy'sLore
                                That is the closest thing to a massive bake I have ever heard BMac serve up - very unusual. Macrae must be in big trouble.
                                Don't care for it to be honest, no reason to "name and shame" a kid like that. Those things stay behind closed doors.

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