2014 Game Day Round 16 - Geelong V Western Bulldogs

[F'scary]

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I don't like it either, particularly given senior players have escaped this kind of criticism.

It does seem like we try to knock any type of creative flair out of players, by drilling them with the "defensive aspects of the game".

Meanwhile, we're still crap defensively and have hardly improved in this area in 3 years.

On the money, TBB. Macrae has to be the least of our worries.

[The bulldog tragician]

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Don't care for it to be honest, no reason to "name and shame" a kid like that. Those things stay behind closed doors.

I have to agree. Even if he commented on the need for defensive accountability, I was surprised to hear the comment that he was lucky to be in the side. That seemed a bit personal and pointed. I've never seen anything to suggest young Jack is a big head who won't take feedback, so delivering this ine the public as well as private sphere was a bit disappointing I thought. We have to hope BMac knows the psyche of his players I suppose but I didn't see the need for it to be public.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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I'm fine with Macca's handling of Macrae, in fact I think it is indicative of excellent understanding from Macca in how to teach a good young player with a strong character and a drive to improve.

On a scale of public bakes it ranks very, very low. The criticism was unemotional, specific, without malice or personal attack. In fact I wouldn't even classify it as one. He merely answered as to why Macrae was made sub. I think Macca knows his charges well and has seen fit to publically praise Macrae on several occasions so I hardly think Macrae will think anything other than he needs to listen and take in the feedback.

Clearly Macca has brought this up with him before and for whatever reason Macrae has not fully absorbed what he has been instructed. I think Macca knows how driven Macrae is and has strategically used the velvet glove in public to challenge him.
Good work Macca I say.

[The Pie Man]

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Eade would be shaking his head with that being called a spray

Let me clarify - I maybe guilty of a headline label (e.g one mild criticism becomes 'Macca slams McCrae over ...') but I was/am genuinely shocked he went down that road.

It was measured - so it's not the delivery that I question. It's the forum. Saying 'he was lucky to play' after accepting that people see perhaps only see possessions feels pretty harsh to me, hence the spray label.

We all know Lake et al needed towels after some Rocket blasts - but I can't remember him saying anything like that publicly (that's my response to the above post - not looking to compare too much)

Not surprised Macca was asked why Jack was sub - but there was an obvious out to this. 'He was sore' It's exactly what I thought when I saw he was the sub.

Hope he really knows what he's doing.

[always right]

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Not surprised Macca was asked why Jack was sub - but there was an obvious out to this. 'He was sore' It's exactly what I thought when I saw he was the sub.

Hope he really knows what he's doing.

I'd be more concerned if we had a coach playing a young bloke he admits is sore.

[Twodogs]

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Eade bagged Lake out at pressers all the time.

[SonofScray]

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People are going in way too hard over the Macrae comments. It was very honest from the Coach, probably quite stark in comparison to what we get most of the time in the AFL media but it ranks well below Eade's 'dumbest smart bloke' belittling of Minson a few years back which was disgraceful.

[GVGjr]

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Not surprised Macca was asked why Jack was sub - but there was an obvious out to this. 'He was sore' It's exactly what I thought when I saw he was the sub.

Hope he really knows what he's doing.

And the cries would have been that he therefore shouldn't have been played. People weren't happy that Macrae was the sub and I remain convinced that whatever answer Macca gave wouldn't have been acceptable for many.
A while back Lake had his integrity questioned about his ability to play through with some pain and many did not have an issue with that. In the end the injury with Lake actually required a longer break.

Some player react better to public pressure than others and I don't think there will be an issue for Macrae.

[bulldogtragic]

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And the cries would have been that he therefore shouldn't have been played. People weren't happy that Macrae was the sub and I remain convinced that whatever answer Macca gave wouldn't have been acceptable for many.

Care to name names? I for one don't see the fuss with Macca's comments to explain what I didn't see as an obvious reason to start a ball magnet on the pine. So who are these many people?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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And the cries would have been that he therefore shouldn't have been played. People weren't happy that Macrae was the sub and I remain convinced that whatever answer Macca gave wouldn't have been acceptable for many.
A while back Lake had his integrity questioned about his ability to play through with some pain and many did not have an issue with that. In the end the injury with Lake actually required a longer break.

Some player react better to public pressure than others and I don't think there will be an issue for Macrae.

IIRC most people did have an issue with this. I know I did.

My annoyance is that he's picked out a player who hasn't played 20 games, but he hasn't voiced that same kind of criticism for any of our senior players who continually make both team and individual errors.

[The Underdog]

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Eade bagged Lake out at pressers all the time.

And now Alastair Clarkson gets to do it

[The Underdog]

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IIRC most people did have an issue with this. I know I did.

My annoyance is that he's picked out a player who hasn't played 20 games, but he hasn't voiced that same kind of criticism for any of our senior players who continually make both team and individual errors.

Yes, but if he sees it a continual behaviour, isn't it better to try and knock it on the head now? I'm not that astute and I was questioning some of his defensive efforts watching the game against the Lions. I remember one definite time when his unwillingness to work into a defensive position cost us a goal in that game.
Maybe it was a message that had been continually passed on in meetings and hasn't been adhered to, so he chose to take it public. And just because he hasn't pointed out other players in public, doesn't mean they haven't been given some treatment in private. I'm still on the fence with Macca, but there is just too many aspects of this situation we can't be privy too for me to be overly critical.

[Bornadog]

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My annoyance is that he's picked out a player who hasn't played 20 games, but he hasn't voiced that same kind of criticism for any of our senior players who continually make both team and individual errors.

A journo asked Macca why did Macrae who is averaging 25 disposals per game start on the bench and Macca answered honestly.

[GVGjr]

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A journo asked Macca why did Macrae who is averaging 25 disposals per game start on the bench and Macca answered honestly.

It wasn't a huge whack either, it was an honest answer to the question and yet apparently it's the wrong way to go. I will back Macca's ability top read if it will devastate or motivate Macrae. As I stated before, I think whatever answer he gave would have been the wrong one in the eyes of many.

[Bornadog]

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It wasn't a huge whack either, it was an honest answer to the question and yet apparently it's the wrong way to go. I will back Macca's ability top read if it will devastate or motivate Macrae. As I stated before, I think whatever answer he gave would have been the wrong one in the eyes of many.

If you read about or listen to Macca its all about the team and what your role is in the team, not about individuals. I can't see anything wrong with his answer to the question.