Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

[Missing Dog]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

Do you see him being delisted at the end of the season if that's the case?

I Think Tom Will stay I think there is huge upside to his game he had a Fantastic season last year and is only 22.
If we give Mulligan Five years surely Youngy gets another season.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

McCartney is looking to try another tall, maybe not this week but Minno will get a rest for Cordy in the next couple of rounds

[azabob]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

McCartney is looking to try another tall, maybe not this week but Minno will get a rest for Cordy in the next couple of rounds

But the season is nearly over. I can't see Minson being rested this late in the season.

[Bornadog]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

But the season is nearly over. I can't see Minson being rested this late in the season.

Maybe this week?

[G-Mo77]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

I Think Tom Will stay I think there is huge upside to his game he had a Fantastic season last year and is only 22.
If we give Mulligan Five years surely Youngy gets another season.

Why use past list managment mistakes as a measuring stick for the current list? What upside does he have? He's a HBF with no pace and a poor defensive game. We're forced to play him tall and he's exposed even more. Where and how does he fit into the side? Apart from depth I don't see the point in keeping him around.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

Why use past list managment mistakes as a measuring stick for the current list? What upside does he have? He's a HBF with no pace and a poor defensive game. We're forced to play him tall and he's exposed even more. Where and how does he fit into the side? Apart from depth I don't see the point in keeping him around.

As Hawthorn have found out you need depth. Malthouse said you need 34 players who can play firsts on your list. Not all can fit in the 22. I think Tom deserves another year at least.

[jeemak]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

Why use past list managment mistakes as a measuring stick for the current list? What upside does he have? He's a HBF with no pace and a poor defensive game. We're forced to play him tall and he's exposed even more. Where and how does he fit into the side? Apart from depth I don't see the point in keeping him around.

He's shown he can play at the highest level and is only 22. There's an article on the WB's web page detailing a changed attitude to training which says to me he's been given a rocket and there's improvement to be made in terms of his fitness.

I personally think he's looked like a good reader of the ball coming into defence and a reasonable user of the footy as well. We've tried to play him tall on occasion, largely because we've had nobody else to play tall.

If he needs to be held onto for depth in the short term then I don't think that's a bad thing.

[Mantis]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

Maybe this week?

Not against Goldstein.. Cordy would get murdered.

[westdog54]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

Not against Goldstein.. Cordy would get murdered.

What about a Campbell/Cordy 60/40 approach?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

He's shown he can play at the highest level and is only 22. There's an article on the WB's web page detailing a changed attitude to training which says to me he's been given a rocket and there's improvement to be made in terms of his fitness.

I personally think he's looked like a good reader of the ball coming into defence and a reasonable user of the footy as well. We've tried to play him tall on occasion, largely because we've had nobody else to play tall.

If he needs to be held onto for depth in the short term then I don't think that's a bad thing.

Agree.

Tom isn't the greatest defender going around. But as Hawthorn have shown you need a good mix of defensive and attacking players in the back half. Suckling and Birchall aren't exactly world beaters when it comes to one on one defending.

Tom has pretty good skills and is a smart player - reads the game well and makes pretty good decisions. When Murphy leaves us we will be severley lacking in that department.

More importantly he has put together a cracking month of footy in the VFL.

Would be just plain dumb to delist him.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

As Hawthorn have found out you need depth. Malthouse said you need 34 players who can play firsts on your list. Not all can fit in the 22. I think Tom deserves another year at least.

I'm happy to keep him as a depth player for another year. I think we'll cut pretty deep and it will hurt having a large turn over of players. My point was I can't find any other reasons to retain him than depth. If there are better options I'd prefer we explored that.

[Greystache]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

I'm happy to keep him as a depth player for another year. I think we'll cut pretty deep and it will hurt having a large turn over of players. My point was I can't find any other reasons to retain him than depth. If there are better options I'd prefer we explored that.

I think Young could be a good player in a good team, but in a weak team has the potential to be exposed. Similar to Ryan Hargrave he just isn't suited to playing on a quality opponent. If we have enough talent in defence so that he can pick up the 5th or 6th forward, he is capable of adding a mix of defensive cover and rebound. He does need to improve his one-on-one defending however. I think he's worth persisting with for now.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

I think Young could be a good player in a good team, but in a weak team has the potential to be exposed. Similar to Ryan Hargrave he just isn't suited to playing on a quality opponent. If we have enough talent in defence so that he can pick up the 5th or 6th forward, he is capable of adding a mix of defensive cover and rebound. He does need to improve his one-on-one defending however. I think he's worth persisting with for now.

Has his one on one defending improved at all. It's hard to judge at VFL level but I'd be interested to see if something stood out.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

I think Young could be a good player in a good team, but in a weak team has the potential to be exposed. Similar to Ryan Hargrave he just isn't suited to playing on a quality opponent. If we have enough talent in defence so that he can pick up the 5th or 6th forward, he is capable of adding a mix of defensive cover and rebound. He does need to improve his one-on-one defending however. I think he's worth persisting with for now.

Tom Young at 22 probably has a chance of making it, but he is no Ryan Hargrave (he was a very good one-on-one) or would need to improve an enormous amount. I get what you say about him being better in a good team, but we can't hang on to all the blokes who will be better in a better team. We need to get blokes in that will make the better team.

[Greystache]

Re: Match Committee - Round 21 vs North Melbourne

Has his one on one defending improved at all. It's hard to judge at VFL level but I'd be interested to see if something stood out.

It's mixed, at times it's good but it's also very poor at others.