Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

[F'scary]

We currently have 8 players off the list or almost certainly gone (Gia, Williams, Young, Howard, Goodes, Tutt, Jones, Higgins); there is one Rookie promotion so far (Jong).

That means 7 potential draft picks/trades are open within our list cap.

Our national draft picks are currently 5, 25, 26, 43, 61, 79, 97.

Jones & Tutt may go via straight player swaps or for picks higher than our two last ones. There has been talk of 42 & 60 from the Blues. In which case we would have 5, 25, 26, 42, 43, 60, 61.

One strategy that the club seems possibly to be pursuing is to use both 25 & 26 on trades which would entail that Zaine Cordy can be picked up with pick 42 under Father/Son rules, even if, say, pick 20 is bid for him, which is not out of the question, apparently. If we also trade pick 42 & 43, that would mean Cordy can be secured with pick 60 or 61.

What would we do with 79 & 97 anyway, if it came to that?

Promote one or two of the current rookies? Pick a couple of smokies? Don't use the picks and look at two delisted free agents and the preseason draft?

Could we also cut one or two more to pick up some delisted players?

I guess a lot of what we do will depend on who is available and the timing.

I would welcome any insights Woofers might have on where we are headed over the next month or so.

[westdog54]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

F/S bidding takes place on Monday morning. We'll know what pick we have committed to Zaine before trade week starts.

[F'scary]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

F/S bidding takes place on Monday morning. We'll know what pick we have committed to Zaine before trade week starts.

I see. So if someone does offer, say pick 20 we will have to use 25 because we will not have yet had the opportunity to trade picks 25 & 26. Thank you WD54.

[F'scary]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Just a footnote on Cordy, Z: From what I have read, pick 25 will be worthwhile to ensure we have his services.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Good summation. Only little thing is Zaine will be decided before pick trading, so if it's pick 25, then it's 25.

So Zaine for Higgins.

So bank on 5, 26, 43, 61 (say Gia, Tommy, Young, Goodes)

Jong upgraded (say Howard)

So, Tutt & Jones.

Ideally, Tutt gets us a slight upgrade somehow (another live pick therefore). Jones gets us 27 hopefully.

In this scenario we get 5 (Wright hopefully), 25 (Zaine), 26, 27 (trade bait), 38ish, 61 (Redpath isn't delisted, so maybe him), 79 (Jong) - a PSD selection. Leaving all rookie spots open.

My guess right now??? Assuming no others get traded out:

Wright, Cordy, 26, 27 - or traded player option, 38. Two rookie upgrades. PSD pick. All rookies (Foster maybe?).

I think if we can get a ruck/forward, tall running defender, KP tall defender & outside pace (26 & 27) and best at 38 we've done ok, with a PSD pick. Then rookie for all positions. This could be smashed by Monday...

[F'scary]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Good summation. Only little thing is Zaine will be decided before pick trading, so if it's pick 25, then it's 25.

So Zaine for Higgins.

So bank on 5, 26, 43, 61 (say Gia, Tommy, Young, Goodes)

Jong upgraded (say Howard)

So, Tutt & Jones.

Ideally, Tutt gets us a slight upgrade somehow (another live pick therefore). Jones gets us 27 hopefully.

In this scenario we get 5 (Wright hopefully), 25 (Zaine), 26, 27 (trade bait), 38ish, 61 (Redpath isn't delisted, so maybe him), 79 (Jong) - a PSD selection. Leaving all rookie spots open.

My guess right now??? Assuming no others get traded out:

Wright, Cordy, 26, 27 - or traded player option, 38. Two rookie upgrades. PSD pick. All rookies (Foster maybe?).

I think if we can get a ruck/forward, tall running defender, KP tall defender & outside pace (26 & 27) and best at 38 we've done ok, with a PSD pick. Then rookie for all positions. This could be smashed by Monday...

Well, I wasn't across the effect of the ordering of the procedings on the F/S pick. But it seems to me you are a little optimistic with getting Wright at 5 and getting 27 for Jones. I have a funny feeling we will settle for Carton's 42.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Well, I wasn't across the effect of the ordering of the procedings on the F/S pick. But it seems to me you are a little optimistic with getting Wright at 5 and getting 27 for Jones. I have a funny feeling we will settle for Carton's 42.

If we get bent over, yeah. We have to play it like Essendon last year with Stew, and hope something happens. Plan B is Carlton trade a player for upgrade to 35 or so, and we package Jones & Tutt for that. Plan C, we take 42 and never mention Jones again. If Membrey is cheap, 35-42 might get that done.

Wright's a chance to get to 5. If he goes, then a tall defender is the next best option and there's a few good uns.

This stuff changes from day to day and there's heaps of time before trade finishing and draft day.

[F'scary]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

If we get bent over, yeah. We have to play it like Essendon last year with Stew, and hope something happens. Plan B is Carlton trade a player for upgrade to 35 or so, and we package Jones & Tutt for that. Plan C, we take 42 and never mention Jones again. If Membrey is cheap, 35-42 might get that done.

Wright's a chance to get to 5. If he goes, then a tall defender is the next best option and there's a few good uns.

This stuff changes from day to day and there's heaps of time before trade finishing and draft day.

If we can't get Wright, I agree the next best talls appear to be defenders. In which case, season or two, we may be able to experiment with Roughead as 2nd ruck/FP - could be good.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

If we can't get Wright, I agree the next best talls appear to be defenders. In which case, season or two, we may be able to experiment with Roughead as 2nd ruck/FP - could be good.

Macca said recently he wants two tall defenders (as well as every other wish list type player) this period. Wright would be awesome, but as you say, if the plan is to have flexibility with Roughie, another tall defender or two gives us that in a few years when Roughie will be in his prime.

[Hotdog60]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

May only concern with Roughy up forward is his set shots.

[GVGjr]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

May only concern with Roughy up forward is his set shots.

Which is something that can be improved if not fixed.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Macca said recently he wants two tall defenders (as well as every other wish list type player) this period. Wright would be awesome, but as you say, if the plan is to have flexibility with Roughie, another tall defender or two gives us that in a few years when Roughie will be in his prime.

Watched the footage of Zaine Cordy. A lot of potential. Would not be upset if we had him down back.

[Hotdog60]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Which is something that can be improved if not fixed.

True they straighten up Jones.

[The Underdog]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

General consensus seems to be that Cordy costs us pick 42. If we get 43 for Jones we basically replace that pick. I know we dream of a 2nd rounder for Jones but he's just not worth it. He's probably worth something in between but how much time do you waste and how many other moves do you delay trying to get an 8-10 pick upgrade? He's the classic case of a guy that is rated lowly by fans until it comes time to trade him and he's suddenly worth heaps. Tutt's currency is negligible. We're clearly trying to upgrade from pick 5 using a 2nd rounder. I like the strategy so far. We're building up picks to use them to try and move up and trade.

[GVGjr]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Jones should be for a player trade but if we looking at having all our selections inside the top 50 we could potentially accept a 3rd round pick for him.

The club has signaled an aggressive approach in acquiring a big name so having picks and players we can part with will help.