Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

[kruder]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

We can't just use 5,25 and 26 on kids again we will never get of the bottom. We have lost Jones and Missy from the middle age bracket and need to replace them with players in the same age bracket.

If there is a good key position player we can use 25 and 26 on then keen to do so or else happy to get Greenwood for pick 26 as Boyd won't play all of next year and Smith may never make it back. I wouldn't mind having a crack at Membrey with the 3rd round pick we get for Jones.

[kruder]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Watched the footage of Zaine Cordy. A lot of potential. Would not be upset if we had him down back.

One things for sure he will be better than his brother. Seems to have GOGO Gadget arms which will come in handy when playing down back.

[mighty_west]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

One things for sure he will be better than his brother. Seems to have GOGO Gadget arms which will come in handy when playing down back.

The gogo gadget arms worked a treat for Dustin Fletcher for 70 odd seasons.

[Maddog37]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Trade out Tutt and Jones and bring in Merrett and Greenwood and you have a much stronger team instantly. Just spitballing.....

[chef]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

We can't just use 5,25 and 26 on kids again we will never get of the bottom. We have lost Jones and Missy from the middle age bracket and need to replace them with players in the same age bracket.

If there is a good key position player we can use 25 and 26 on then keen to do so or else happy to get Greenwood for pick 26 as Boyd won't play all of next year and Smith may never make it back. I wouldn't mind having a crack at Membrey with the 3rd round pick we get for Jones.

I'm happy for us to keep on going on the long term plan. Picks 5, 25, 26 and 42(probably used on Cordy) need to be used on the best available talent in the draft. I hope we don't just top up with average players from other clubs.

Pretty confident we'll end up with a decent tall at 5, especially if the Lions trade pick 4 for Beams which looks likely. Pies will go a mid at 4 with Moore coming in at pick 8.

[SonofScray]

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I'd like to see us stick primarily to the draft and improve our selection strategies and development programs. No more trying to trade in KPF guns, that is pretty low percentage stuff. Perhaps get aggressive with free agency, or accepting that good players will walk under FA, make more player trades at times to get up the draft order more often.

[Webby]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

I'd like to see us stick primarily to the draft and improve our selection strategies and development programs. No more trying to trade in KPF guns, that is pretty low percentage stuff. Perhaps get aggressive with free agency, or accepting that good players will walk under FA, make more player trades at times to get up the draft order more often.

I agree. We should only trade for picks at this stage. We're pissing in the wind at this stage on the trading in of players and FA front. In two years time we'll find it a lot easier. We need to build up our core like Port did. Look at them two years ago. No one wanted to join them. In fact, they were hanging by a thread in trying to hold onto Boak. Ollie Wines was reportedly in tears when they drafted him!

Two years on and they're a hot young team (built via the draft) and players are lining up to jump in. That's where we can be in a couple of years. We just need to keep drafting well and developing. Once that's done, there'll be a tipping point.

Despite Hawthorn's nabbing of FA's, the sheer weight of the Hodge, Lewis, Mitchell, Gibson, Lake, Burgoyne and Roughead retirements over the next 2-3 years means that they HAVE TO regress. We, on the other hand, will be on the rise... If we play our hand wisely. Stay patient, avoid sugar-hits and keep the eyes on the horizon. That's what I'm hoping our admin are doing.

[Twodogs]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Trade out Tutt and Jones and bring in Merrett and Greenwood and you have a much stronger team instantly. Just spitballing.....

Mentally and physically.

I'm beginning to warm to the idea of Greenwood for the right price. If Tutt and Greenwood were the kids standing next to the shelter sheds waiting to be picked for the lunchtime game I'd go with Greenwood every time.

[F'scary]

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Let us say we do take Carton's offer of 42 & 60 for Jones & Tutt and that we don't trade any picks for players before the ND.

We would have picks 5, 25, 26, 42, 43, 60, 61 and 79 with Jong to take the last one as a rookie upgrade.

If there is to be another rookie promotion (Redpath or Austin), that would mean pick 61 would have to be used for a rookie upgrade. I think that is a relatively high pick to be using on a rookie upgrade, especially when, with pick 60 last year, we snaffled Honeychurch (who on his record should have gone 20 to 30 picks higher but for, in my opinion, the growing and ill founded prejudice against players under 178 cm).

Would it be a good move to cut one more fringe player to get another draft pick (97) to use on Jong and preserve 79 for a genuine selection or a second rookie upgrade? In other words, do we have one or more seconds players on our senior list who are worth less than a speculative pick 79 or a second rookie upgrade? Without naming anyone I think we do.

[Remi Moses]

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To say we'll be in the "bottom for ever" if we use the draft is nonsense.
I'd say if we use the draft well, we'll be up for a more sustained period.

[1eyedog]

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To say we'll be in the "bottom for ever" if we use the draft is nonsense.
I'd say if we use the draft well, we'll be up for a more sustained period.

Yeah I agree. You would normally bring in a player like Merrett as a top 4 side, similar to what the Hawks did with Lake and we did with Hall, Norf have just done with Waite. I'm not sure what it means for Talia and Roberts if Merrett comes in unless Merrett or Roughie go forward.

[Bulldog Revolution]

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Mentally and physically.

I'm beginning to warm to the idea of Greenwood for the right price. If Tutt and Greenwood were the kids standing next to the shelter sheds waiting to be picked for the lunchtime game I'd go with Greenwood every time.

Greenwood is quite a good player but he doesn't add the speed or kicking skill we need

Do we really need an inside mid?

[stefoid]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Do we really need an inside mid?

IS this a trick question?

[chef]

Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

Do we really need an inside mid?

We do need as many quality footballers as possible.

Pretty sure our coach doesn't believe in inside or outside mids(he's said as much). Players need to be able to do both and you don't need speed to be able to spread.

I'd be more worried about his disposal than leg speed, whats it like?

I've allows thought being able to move the football quickly makes a team fast.

[Mofra]

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To say we'll be in the "bottom for ever" if we use the draft is nonsense.
I'd say if we use the draft well, we'll be up for a more sustained period.

You're ignoring the "feeder club" hypothesis which, if you look at what has happened between us and Melbourne over the past few years, is a distinct possibility.

We've just developed Jones for 6 years for nothing. Tutt may make it at another club.