Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27654

    #61
    Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

    Originally posted by Dry Rot
    Is Cooney mates with Ward?


    Don't think so DR. Sam Reid was Ward's bestie and we already sent him up there.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11222

      #62
      Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

      Originally posted by stefoid
      'Almost' is the word there. Its likely Carlton will turn it down anyway.
      They will now - we've showed our hand to them. I'd rather we try to convince Jones to stay with the club after trade period and risk losing him in the PSD or ND for nothing. If pick 28 nets us Jones and Cooney without any further sweeteners (as you rightly point out, our 3rd rounder will be needed by us on draft day), that's kind-of acceptable and does put us in a powerful trading position in 12 months' time. I just think we are being far too accommodating to Carlton with the mooted scenario.
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66603

        #63
        Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

        Originally posted by Sedat
        They will now - we've showed our hand to them. I'd rather we try to convince Jones to stay with the club after trade period and risk losing him in the PSD or ND for nothing. If pick 28 nets us Jones and Cooney without any further sweeteners (as you rightly point out, our 3rd rounder will be needed by us on draft day), that's kind-of acceptable and does put us in a powerful trading position in 12 months' time. I just think we are being far too accommodating to Carlton with the mooted scenario.
        I cannot see why Carlton would want Cooney.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Murphy'sLore
          WOOF Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 2085

          #64
          Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

          I cannot see why we'd want Lonergan.

          Strange time of year. I hate trade week. And yet I can't look away...

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          • Sedat
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2007
            • 11222

            #65
            Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

            Originally posted by bornadog
            I cannot see why Carlton would want Cooney.
            He has absolutely starred against them in the past - the old Daniel Bandy trading rule. Using the same rule, maybe we can tempt them with Jarrad Grant as well
            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66603

              #66
              Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

              Originally posted by Sedat
              He has absolutely starred against them in the past - the old Daniel Bandy trading rule. Using the same rule, maybe we can tempt them with Jarrad Grant as well
              Now I know you are joking.
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • Sedat
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2007
                • 11222

                #67
                Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Now I know you are joking.
                Grant kicked a bag of 5 and was BOG when we beat them late last year. That's when some of us (myself included) were hailing his impending coming of age, which of course amounted to 2/5ths of bugger all this year.
                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                • Dogmatic

                  #68
                  Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

                  Although Cooney has been a good player, he is not a leader or a heart and soul player, therefore, as he approaches 30 with a dodgy knee, what value does he offer us? I'm okay to see him go.

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                  • stefoid
                    Senior Player
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1846

                    #69
                    Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

                    Originally posted by Sedat
                    They will now - we've showed our hand to them. I'd rather we try to convince Jones to stay with the club after trade period and risk losing him in the PSD or ND for nothing. If pick 28 nets us Jones and Cooney without any further sweeteners (as you rightly point out, our 3rd rounder will be needed by us on draft day), that's kind-of acceptable and does put us in a powerful trading position in 12 months' time. I just think we are being far too accommodating to Carlton with the mooted scenario.
                    Playing devil's advocate, but a lot depends on what we intend to do with the 3rd rounder or 2nd rounder respectively.

                    Do we have a player in mind at 26->28 who wont be there in the late 30s? Do we have other players in mind like Prudden who are effectively invisible so we could use a 5th rounder on them just as easy as a 3rd?

                    Are we hatching a trade deal that requires an extra 2nd rounder?

                    Not saying any of the above is true, but value is a slippery term.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #70
                      Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

                      As much as it will hurt us hearing opposition fans chant "COOONS" - it is logical for us to let him go.
                      He is 29, regressing and will now most likely leave next year as a free agent.
                      It will be short term pain for longer term gain.
                      The advantages of trading him for a pick outweigh the disadvantages....

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #71
                        Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

                        Originally posted by Gia13
                        As much as it will hurt us hearing opposition fans chant "COOONS" - it is logical for us to let him go.
                        He is 29, regressing and will now most likely leave next year as a free agent.
                        It will be short term pain for longer term gain.
                        The advantages of trading him for a pick outweigh the disadvantages....
                        What makes you think he will leave as free agent?

                        If he wants to stay and we trade him for nothing we lose. Whats the point.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #72
                          Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

                          Originally posted by Dry Rot
                          Is Cooney mates with Ward?
                          I don't know whether to laugh or not? We are reaching now.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #73
                            Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

                            Originally posted by rooner17
                            What makes you think he will leave as free agent?

                            If he wants to stay and we trade him for nothing we lose. Whats the point.
                            Rooner17...After being shopped around like he has this week and lets not kid ourselves, he has been shopped around by us, I cant see him doing us a favour next year and staying....Cant imagine he would be enjoying all this....Interesting that no one has came out and said "He is a required player and is not going anywhere", you dont think this would be pissing him off just a little bit?

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #74
                              Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

                              Absolutely and some of the tripe he is reading from some supporters for sure. But it doesn't mean he will leave next year because of it.

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                              • chef
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14626

                                #75
                                Re: Adam Cooney: Up for trade ?

                                Maybe it's him pushing for a trade.
                                The curse is dead.

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