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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21836

    #16
    Re: Tom Lonergan

    It makes sense if the outcome of the end of season review was an acknowledgement that we need to give ourselves a chance to win more games of football in the next two years as a co-priority alongside developing our younger players.

    I read in the Merrett thread that the recruiting of 30 year old defenders smells of Bmac trying to save his skin, but to me that's highly unlikely. More likely would be pressure from our executive to win more games of football more quickly to help us stay relevant in the eyes of our supporters.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13237

      #17
      Re: Tom Lonergan

      Originally posted by Sedat
      If we had decent defensive talls coming through, all this Merrett and Lonergan talk would not be happening. The reality is that we have major holes down back and not a lot coming through to fill those holes. Talia and Fletcher are just about the two most important players on our list - if they fail to make the grade, we almost lose the opportunity to contend in the next 4-5 years.
      Exactly we need to play them or at least one of them fairly consistently next year. I thought this was going to be the case when Lake was traded out but it never happened and all we saw all year again was Morris, Wood and Young being man-handled by bigger opponents.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • Dry Rot
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6447

        #18
        Re: Tom Lonergan

        Would prefer Merrett if we had to take one.
        The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66785

          #19
          Re: Tom Lonergan

          Originally posted by Sedat
          If we had decent defensive talls coming through, all this Merrett and Lonergan talk would not be happening. The reality is that we have major holes down back and not a lot coming through to fill those holes. Talia and Fletcher are just about the two most important players on our list - if they fail to make the grade, we almost lose the opportunity to contend in the next 4-5 years.
          and whose fault is that? I come back to the Lake decision and why I didn't want to break the umbilical call.

          Do we ever plan for the future, seems not.
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          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66785

            #20
            Re: Tom Lonergan

            Originally posted by Dry Rot
            Would prefer Merrett if we had to take one.
            if we had to choose then I agree.
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            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • SlimPickens
              Coaching Staff
              • Aug 2010
              • 2929

              #21
              Re: Tom Lonergan

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Do we ever plan for the future, seems not.
              Silly statement considering recent events and the importance the club has placed on drafting the last 2-3 years. I understand your feelings on the Lake trade but don't see why you're biting so hard about unsubstantiated rumours .
              "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9876

                #22
                Re: Tom Lonergan

                Originally posted by Dry Rot
                Would prefer Merrett if we had to take one.
                So would I and would probably be cheaper. If we get one of these 2 Austin would have to be gone. 3 years though?

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                • 1eyedog
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 13237

                  #23
                  Re: Tom Lonergan

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  and whose fault is that? I come back to the Lake decision and why I didn't want to break the umbilical call.

                  Do we ever plan for the future, seems not.
                  Keeping Lake on isn't the answer but you're right we need to have one eye on the future and play what we've got in Talia and Roberts. Young's gone and Austin isn't up for it so they are our hopes.
                  But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                  • lemmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6528

                    #24
                    Re: Tom Lonergan

                    Originally posted by stevw9
                    I think we have a pretty massive gap in meeting 95% minimum salary cap......
                    Bump Morris' contract up to 650k for the next year or two and send him out with a retirement bonus then....

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66785

                      #25
                      Re: Tom Lonergan

                      Originally posted by SlimPickens
                      Silly statement considering recent events and the importance the club has placed on drafting the last 2-3 years. I understand your feelings on the Lake trade but don't see why you're biting so hard about unsubstantiated rumours .
                      Not going in hard just commenting that "if true" I don't want to bring in another 30 year old as that is not the answer. We tried that with Goodes and that was a big fail.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #26
                        Re: Tom Lonergan

                        Yes Lonergan is old, but this thread just confirms for me what I already suspected, which is that he's in the top couple of underrated players in the competition.

                        Harry Taylor get all the acolades, but who is doing the job on the best forward week in week out? Lonergan.

                        Having said that I'm still not convinced it's a good move by the club to recruit him and to be honest I couldn't see him wanting to come.

                        Let Talia/Roberts/Lever develop.

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27656

                          #27
                          Re: Tom Lonergan

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Not going in hard just commenting that "if true" I don't want to bring in another 30 year old as that is not the answer. We tried that with Goodes and that was a big fail.
                          The difference is that Goodes was untried at AFL level and Merrett and Lonergan have shown they can pay at AFL level.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66785

                            #28
                            Re: Tom Lonergan

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            The difference is that Goodes was untried at AFL level and Merrett and Lonergan have shown they can pay at AFL level.
                            Do you want another clubs hasbeen?
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • Bulldog4life
                              WOOF Member
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 9607

                              #29
                              Re: Tom Lonergan

                              Mark Stevens @Stevo7AFL · 22m 22 minutes ago

                              Dogs went hard after Steven May of GC through season, but fell short .. Now Lonergan .. Key back assault

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                              • divvydan
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 1502

                                #30
                                Re: Tom Lonergan

                                Mark Stevens tweeted that we had tried to lure Steven May from GC during the year. Clearly we see it as a position of need to be filled, which it is. Getting a player who can fill it is much more difficult.

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