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  • boydogs
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 5844

    Re: Coach resigns

    Originally posted by Ozza
    Because then the immediate reply is 'he has resigned'. (Obviously we know it wasn't purely a resignation....but it's the club line).
    He tripped up on that one as well.



    0:40 - A contract is a contract, during a press conference sacking a coach contracted for 2 more years



    1:45 - "We have made a judgment as senior management and the board to make a change, Macca's agreed with that"

    2:15 - "It formed part of the evidence on which we made a decision"
    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

    Formerly gogriff

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21845

      Re: Coach resigns

      Griffen moving on to go to GWS as a contracted player is not the same as the club suggesting McCartney should resign and McCartney subsequently resigning, from a contractual perspective.

      One scenario has mutual agreement, while the other doesn't. It's a non-argument, irrespective of the moral point of view one might want to bring into the debate.

      There's no contradiction at all, and of all people PG would know that.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66858

        Re: Coach resigns

        Originally posted by jeemak
        Griffen moving on to go to GWS as a contracted player is not the same as the club suggesting McCartney should resign and McCartney subsequently resigning, from a contractual perspective.

        One scenario has mutual agreement, while the other doesn't. It's a non-argument, irrespective of the moral point of view one might want to bring into the debate.

        There's no contradiction at all, and of all people PG would know that.
        There were also clauses in Macca's contract which meant we would never pay him out for the remainder of his contract.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • ratsmac
          Coaching Staff
          • May 2009
          • 3975

          Re: Coach resigns

          Cameron Ling tweeted this

          After 3 seasons, Macca 20wins 46 losses v Clarko 28wins 40 losses. Dogs baulk v Hawks didn't. Average club v great club. Success takes time.

          I have to agree with Cameron on this one.
          They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
          Brian Fantana.

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          • ratsmac
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2009
            • 3975

            Re: Coach resigns

            Actually I might add to the Bulldogs defence that the Hawks didn't have their captain entertain treason and up and leave did they.
            They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
            Brian Fantana.

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            • Mantis
              Hall of Fame
              • Apr 2007
              • 15476

              Re: Coach resigns

              Originally posted by ratsmac
              Cameron Ling tweeted this

              After 3 seasons, Macca 20wins 46 losses v Clarko 28wins 40 losses. Dogs baulk v Hawks didn't. Average club v great club. Success takes time.

              I have to agree with Cameron on this one.
              Ling is an A grade flog and shouldn't be allowed to come into our rooms... Has always been on the B-Mac bandwagon and has let his emotion cloud his judgement on this one.

              And were Hawthorn a great club in 2007? Easy in hindsight.

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              • Rocket Science
                Coaching Staff
                • Oct 2007
                • 4855

                Re: Coach resigns

                Brendan McCartney post-departure interview about to air shortly on ABC Grandstand for anyone interested.

                BORDERLINE FLYING

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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  Re: Coach resigns

                  Hawks made the eight in his third year, and we're on the way up.
                  Silly comparison

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7471

                    Re: Coach resigns

                    Originally posted by Remi Moses
                    Hawks made the eight in his third year, and we're on the way up.
                    Silly comparison
                    Love the twisting of a good stat

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11279

                      Re: Coach resigns

                      After 3 seasons, Macca 20wins 46 losses v Clarko 28wins 40 losses. Dogs baulk v Hawks didn't. Average club v great club. Success takes time.

                      Terrible comparison from Ling. Hawthorn made finals and won a final in Clarko's third year and then won the flag in his 4th year. Irrespective, his comparison had Clarko 8 wins ahead of BMac at the same stage of which the differential was 7 of wins alone in year 3. By his demented logic, BMac would have won the flag with us next year.

                      If only Sydney could have taken both Ling and Harley, that way both of them would not have bored us shitless with their moronic drivel on Ch 7 Friday nights
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • G-Mo77
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9877

                        Re: Coach resigns

                        Originally posted by gogriff
                        He tripped up on that one as well.



                        0:40 - A contract is a contract, during a press conference sacking a coach contracted for 2 more years



                        1:45 - "We have made a judgment as senior management and the board to make a change, Macca's agreed with that"

                        2:15 - "It formed part of the evidence on which we made a decision"
                        I love that one.

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14985

                          Re: Coach resigns

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Its great your a big fan of Maca, and think he has done everything right at the club, but when multiple players say they can't work with him, not just senior players, but lots of players - surely you can see there were issues.

                          PG said in his presser, there were issues in the way he communicated to the players for the second half of the year. These players are not precious, you think they can't handle a rocket?? because as Mark Stevens tweeted, the senior players are use to a rocket from Rocket. What is missing with Macca is the way you deliver or communicate to players.
                          Forget the coaching issue for a moment.

                          Are you actually so quickly willing to forgive the captain of the club for spending 6 months talking to another club about a trade, and lying to both the president and to Chris Grant?
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • boydogs
                            WOOF Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5844

                            Re: Coach resigns

                            Originally posted by Remi Moses
                            Hawks made the eight in his third year, and we're on the way up.
                            Silly comparison
                            Yeah I noticed Clarkson had coached 2 extra games. 8 wins more is nothing to sneeze at either
                            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                            Formerly gogriff

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              Re: Coach resigns

                              Originally posted by hughy31
                              All the doom and gloom from you guys
                              New coach
                              Tom Boyd/Cameron? ++for 29 yo Griffen
                              Everybody might be happier next week
                              Im a bulldog thru and thru
                              Throw away lines from some leaving the club... definately not true supporters
                              Hate so say this but one week and a cool head makes a big difference
                              Tony lockett part 2

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                              • Bulldog4life
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 9607

                                Re: Coach resigns

                                Haven't got the link to it but it was emailed to me by my sister. Article by Jon Ralph.

                                "Brendan McCartney’s expectations and assessments of his players when he was coach of the Western Bulldogs were too personal and cost him his job, says the Herald Sun’s Jon Ralph.
                                His reputation as a tough leader was always well known but it seems the 53 year-old became an unpopular figure at the Whitten Oval after questioning the personalities of various players.
                                “So, basically the things that he said to them were game-changers, they irreparably damaged that relationship.
                                “Maybe he just snapped and felt that he had had enough.
                                “He said things to Adam Cooney and Will Minson that were insults that rocked them to the core,” Ralph explained on Hungry for Sport.
                                It was initially thought that players were unjustifiably whinging because they were unhappy with the McCartney’s particularly harsh evaluations in their end of season exit interviews.
                                A former Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade was famous for his demanding and fiery character but the senior players felt McCartney took it a step too far.
                                “It’s not only the senior players, some of the younger players love him but others felt like he was too tough.
                                “What some of the senior players are saying is that we can accept sprays, but he basically ripped into their personalities.”
                                Those players who took offence to the negative feedback clearly made their issues with McCartney known to senior figures at the club and ultimately led to his ‘resignation’.
                                “If someone rips into the core of your being, it’s pretty hard to come back from that.
                                “He attacked their personalities, and attacked them as people.
                                “So those players asked how they overcome that, this is the person I am at 30 years of age.”

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