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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7730

    Re: Our Worrying Defence

    Our defensive structure is brilliant. Our team defense is just superb.

    However i'm still unsure of our abilities to go 1 on 1. I'm not sure we have many decent 1 on 1 defenders. I can only think of Morris.

    On the occasions where a defender has been isolated 1 on 1 we have been beaten a lot of the time

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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5585

      Re: Our Worrying Defence

      Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
      Our defensive structure is brilliant. Our team defense is just superb.

      However i'm still unsure of our abilities to go 1 on 1. I'm not sure we have many decent 1 on 1 defenders. I can only think of Morris.

      On the occasions where a defender has been isolated 1 on 1 we have been beaten a lot of the time
      This is true of most teams even Hawthorn. Any forward 1 on 1 is just about unbeatable with the right delivery.

      Good defence requires the team principle and the Hawthorn method has stood up well.

      Interesting that the Clarkson proteges in Beveridge and Simpson have both instituted excellent defense structure while being very attacking teams and getting away from the Roos/Lyon strangulation game.
      Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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      • stefoid
        Senior Player
        • Dec 2009
        • 1846

        Re: Our Worrying Defence

        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
        This is true of most teams even Hawthorn. Any forward 1 on 1 is just about unbeatable with the right delivery.

        Good defence requires the team principle and the Hawthorn method has stood up well.

        Interesting that the Clarkson proteges in Beveridge and Simpson have both instituted excellent defense structure while being very attacking teams and getting away from the Roos/Lyon strangulation game.
        Yep - the area defence is more effective, but it needs time to get in place so if you move the ball really quickly, you can beat it before it forms properly. Perhaps the league is moving into an era of fast ball movement.

        Which if it is, is going to place a premium on players who can cover a lot of ground quickly, rather than trotting form stoppage to stoppage.

        Which may prolong Grants career (at the dogs) and see Minson moved on to a stoppage team like the Swans?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66829

          Re: Our Worrying Defence

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          • westdog54
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6686

            Re: Our Worrying Defence

            Originally posted by bornadog
            So does that mean thread closed.
            I'd happily do a title change to "our outstanding defence".

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66829

              Re: Our Worrying Defence

              Originally posted by westdog54
              I'd happily do a title change to "our outstanding defence".
              It really is outstanding, one of the many surprises for the year.
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                Re: Our Worrying Defence

                I read a little gem of a stat today that gives an indication of how our defence has gone this year.

                Since 1970, we have only ever once conceded less than 250 goals in a home and away season (241 in 1974).

                This year we have conceded 214 with 3 games to go.

                So our defence this year is conceding less goals whilst playing home at Etihad than we did most years playing home at Western Oval, that is a fair achievement.

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27656

                  Re: Our Worrying Defence

                  Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                  I read a little gem of a stat today that gives an indication of how our defence has gone this year.

                  Since 1970, we have only ever once conceded less than 250 goals in a home and away season (241 in 1974).

                  This year we have conceded 214 with 3 games to go.

                  So our defence this year is conceding less goals whilst playing home at Etihad than we did most years playing home at Western Oval, that is a fair achievement.
                  12 goals a game with an average a tick over 10. One more thing to worry about,
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Eastdog
                    WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 18298

                    Re: Our Worrying Defence

                    It struggled today but yes our defence has surprised me this year and has held up very well. Joel Hamling has impressed me, Biggs has been good, Morris, Murphy, M Boyd have all been huge down there and E Wood has been great. Will be good to get Roughy and Roberts back in down there. Talia I'm willing to give more time and not yet to give up on him just yet.
                    "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                    • Eastdog
                      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 18298

                      Re: Our Worrying Defence

                      Seems after this draft we make not have too many more worries in this area in the future.
                      "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27656

                        Re: Our Worrying Defence

                        Is that Dry Rot I saw running down the street yelling Yippee and Hurrah? "Two!" He was yelling "Two key defenders!"
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Dry Rot
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6448

                          Re: Our Worrying Defence

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          Is that Dry Rot I saw running down the street yelling Yippee and Hurrah? "Two!" He was yelling "Two key defenders!"
                          I was until those Brisbane bastards took Skinner.
                          The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27656

                            Re: Our Worrying Defence

                            Originally posted by Dry Rot
                            I was until those Brisbane bastards took Skinner.
                            I think your head would have exploded if we had snared 3 key defenders.

                            Anyway Brisbane can warm him up for us. A couple of years and he'll come back. They nearly always do.
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • comrade
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 18047

                              Re: Our Worrying Defence

                              Skinner's ACL is a worry, and after getting 2 big guys, I was happy to get a Dalrymple special.
                              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 14977

                                Re: Our Worrying Defence

                                Originally posted by Dry Rot
                                I was until those Brisbane bastards took Skinner.
                                A few question marks on where Skinner actually plays.

                                I like that Adams can play small too - handcuff him to Morris all pre-season
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