Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

[Mofra]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

Give Wood & Morris a 5 metre runup and jump and I reckon Wood would get higher

Great.
Now we only have to play him in games where he is allowed a 5m run up every time there is a contest in our defensive half.

Wood is not a KPD. Period.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

I think you'll find Wood has a very good standing start leap as well.
Plenty of smaller defenders have played as key backs ( Leo Barry) for example.
One on one against the gorillas he'd struggle.

[Mofra]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

I think you'll find Wood has a very good standing start leap as well.
Plenty of smaller defenders have played as key backs ( Leo Barry) for example.
One on one against the gorillas he'd struggle.

Wood played on taller players last year and (IIRC) he lost the most one on ones in % terms in the competition.
The game is changing - the days of 6 foot or thereabouts being KPP height is over.

[Greystache]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

Wood played on taller players last year and (IIRC) he lost the most one on ones in % terms in the competition.
The game is changing - the days of 6 foot or thereabouts being KPP height is over.

It's the problem we're going to keep encountering with our obsession of only drafting short players, and the clinical fear we seem to have of using a draft pick on a key position player. In the last 4 years we've only used one draft pick earlier than #80 on a KP/Ruckman (Talia- pick 39 in 2011) the others are all either rookie (Campbell, Redpath), preseason draft (Roberts), or delisted free agent (Hamling).

We're trying to build a list but are only willing to pick up the bargain scraps of key position players. It was only Gryphin defecting that forced our hand to pay up for Boyd. It's just insanity but it's what we're doing.

[Mofra]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

It's the problem we're going to keep encountering with our obsession of only drafting short players, and the clinical fear we seem to have of using a draft pick on a key position player. In the last 4 years we've only used one draft pick earlier than #80 on a KP/Ruckman (Talia- pick 39 in 2011) the others are all either rookie (Campbell, Redpath), preseason draft (Roberts), or delisted free agent (Hamling).

We're trying to build a list but are only willing to pick up the bargain scraps of key position players. It was only Gryphin defecting that forced our hand to pay up for Boyd. It's just insanity but it's what we're doing.

I agree with you - despite picking up Zaine Cordy who will take many years to be AFL ready, our obsession with shorter player and our history of never having a full, good spine in my lifetime of following the Bulldogs (we're always missing one tall) means I do worry about how we will structure up in the next few years.

We actually look ok in the forwardline for once (Redpath & Boyd can prove a useful pairing) but Roughy had an injury-affected shocker last year and no CHB candidate has yet emerged so I'm very worried about our KPD stocks.

[Greystache]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

We actually look ok in the forwardline for once (Redpath & Boyd can prove a useful pairing) but Roughy had an injury-affected shocker last year and no CHB candidate has yet emerged so I'm very worried about our KPD stocks.

We do at this stage, but we are still banking on 2 players who have barely 10 games of AFL experience between them. If one (or heaven forbid both) doesn't make it we have no one else coming through and will be looking at trying to develop a kid who's currently 17 and playing under age footy. We're taking the all your eggs in one basket to the extreme.

[Mofra]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

We do at this stage, but we are still banking on 2 players who have barely 10 games of AFL experience between them. If one (or heaven forbid both) doesn't make it we have no one else coming through and will be looking at trying to develop a kid who's currently 17 and playing under age footy. We're taking the all your eggs in one basket to the extreme.

I wouldn't be unhappy if we look at a mature ager who is "decent" who can fill in for a couple of years. Geelong nabbed 22 yo Delaney last year for depth, there has to be some players around this trade period we can look at.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

It's the problem we're going to keep encountering with our obsession of only drafting short players, and the clinical fear we seem to have of using a draft pick on a key position player. In the last 4 years we've only used one draft pick earlier than #80 on a KP/Ruckman (Talia- pick 39 in 2011) the others are all either rookie (Campbell, Redpath), preseason draft (Roberts), or delisted free agent (Hamling).

We're trying to build a list but are only willing to pick up the bargain scraps of key position players. It was only Gryphin defecting that forced our hand to pay up for Boyd. It's just insanity but it's what we're doing.

Could it be a possibility we have Carisle all signed sealed and delivered at years end?

[boydogs]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

In the last 4 years we've only used one draft pick earlier than #80 on a KP/Ruckman (Talia- pick 39 in 2011) the others are all either rookie (Campbell, Redpath), preseason draft (Roberts), or delisted free agent (Hamling).

If one (or heaven forbid both) doesn't make it we have no one else coming through and will be looking at trying to develop a kid who's currently 17 and playing under age footy

You want us to hit the draft, but you don't want to wait for them to develop

Boyd, Hamling, Z Cordy and promoting Redpath was a pretty good effort at improving our KP stocks in one off season. If Campbell, Talia & Roberts come on this year we will look a lot better

[Twodogs]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

Could it be a possibility we have Carisle all signed sealed and delivered at years end?

Not really no. But Tom Boyd playing for us this year were pretty long odds this time last year.

[Greystache]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

You want us to hit the draft, but you don't want to wait for them to develop

Boyd, Hamling, Z Cordy and promoting Redpath was a pretty good effort at improving our KP stocks in one off season. If Campbell, Talia & Roberts come on this year we will look a lot better

You've missed the point. You don't draft a batch, sit on them for a few years to see if they make, then if they don't start again. That's the recipe for creating huge holes in a list. We should be regularly drafting talls so as the one's that don't make it get delisted we have others coming through who aren't kids.

Repath, Talia, Hamling, and Roberts were all drafted the same year, and going into their 4th seasons have about 10 games experience between them with nothing else coming through. Well except that hulking beast Z Cordy you keep banging on about I'd count Jack MaCrae in our KP defender stakes too given him and Cordy are the exact same height and weight, although I'd give the edge in body strength to MaCrae from the contested work I've seen.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

Gotta say, I was envious of Saints last year. Paddy & Goddard are bookends for a decade for them. If we had their picks, I don't think we'd have done it.

[Greystache]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

Could it be a possibility we have Carisle all signed sealed and delivered at years end?

I'll believe it if you will

[boydogs]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

You've missed the point. You don't draft a batch, sit on them for a few years to see if they make, then if they don't start again. That's the recipe for creating huge holes in a list. We should be regularly drafting talls so as the one's that don't make it get delisted we have others coming through who aren't kids.

Redpath, Talia, Hamling, and Roberts were all drafted the same year, and going into their 4th seasons have about 10 games experience between them with nothing else coming through.

That's the plan though, create a list with a huge chunk of players peaking at the one time. We have a special list of guys from Roughead down to Bonts drafted from 2008-2013. In 2014 we added a few guys drafted previously that will peak at the same time

Well except that hulking beast Z Cordy you keep banging on about I'd count Jack MaCrae in our KP defender stakes too given him and Cordy are the exact same height and weight, although I'd give the edge in body strength to MaCrae from the contested work I've seen.

Dalrymple said on draft night he thinks Cordy will in time be able to play as a key defender, I'm hoping he is right

[Remi Moses]

Re: Family Day and Intra Club - 7 March 2015

Clearly Darymple thinks the talls at our picks aren't going to be much chop.
Picking up a free agent at 28 or 29 would be pointless, and we just need to keep playing Talia, Roberts, Hamling and the like.
Time will tell of course whether we stuffed up