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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 18103

    #61
    Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

    AFL 360 commented on the Jong thing. Consensus was that touring the opposition facilities mid season is a tad too far. All well and good to have discussions via your manager, but actually going for a tour means your head isn't totally at the club you're contracted at.

    Thoughts?
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 8999

      #62
      Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

      I don't really understand exactly why a player has to tour another club's facility? The Filth are a professional club, one of the richest to boot. I'm pretty sure Lin can be confident the weight room isn't cordial bottles full of sand.

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      • chef
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 14751

        #63
        Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

        Originally posted by comrade
        AFL 360 commented on the Jong thing. Consensus was that touring the opposition facilities mid season is a tad too far. All well and good to have discussions via your manager, but actually going for a tour means your head isn't totally at the club you're contracted at.

        Thoughts?
        Seems a dumb move by Jong. Do you really need to do a walk through during the season, its not like he wouldnt have a fair idea of what its like.
        The curse is dead.

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 18103

          #64
          Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Bevo seems to take everything pretty personally so it wouldn't surprise me.

          As far as who is the better player.. I think that is very much up to personal opinion as I would think that it's pretty close bnetween the 2.
          I don't mind that Bevo takes things personally when it comes to loyalty. He's a player advocate - always defending ours and other clubs players.

          It's old school, but if cultivating that sense of loyalty is the secret to getting the players on board, so be it. If you do something to betray that loyalty - and in my opinion, touring an opposition's facilities mid season a few days before a game is treading a fine line - you run the risk of being torched.

          If it was a clandestine meeting/tour without the acknowledgement of the club, Jong took a risk and it may backfire on him.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15485

            #65
            Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

            I think we should push for a late second round draft pick rather than a player.

            With such an even draft it may be a good time to hit the draft again.
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • Mantis
              Hall of Fame
              • Apr 2007
              • 15548

              #66
              Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
              39 possessions in the V. Good swap for Jong despite all this.
              37.

              But I'm not sure it means much as Jong seems to be a lock to be in our best couple of players every time he plays in the VFL too.

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15485

                #67
                Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

                According to the herald sun

                We have offered Lin Jong a 2 year deal.

                Collingwood have since cooled on Jong!!
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  #68
                  Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

                  Might be a ploy from Scott Lucas (manager) to weed out a better deal with the dogs .
                  Got no issue with Lin or Lucas talking to potential suitors, but the whole "touring the facility" is just nonsense.
                  Wow ! Collingwood's gotta better gym than the dogs

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 18103

                    #69
                    Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

                    Hey there's Pendles, that guy's almost as good as Bonti!
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #70
                      Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

                      Originally posted by azabob
                      I think we should push for a late second round draft pick rather than a player.

                      With such an even draft it may be a good time to hit the draft again.
                      We don't have to exclusively deal with Collingwood, perhaps if Prestia leaves GCS might pursue Jong again. If we're into Vardy as reported we could deal with Collingwood though:

                      Vardy> Dogs - Jong> Collingwood - ???> Geelong
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67710

                        #71
                        Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        I don't mind that Bevo takes things personally when it comes to loyalty. He's a player advocate - always defending ours and other clubs players.

                        It's old school, but if cultivating that sense of loyalty is the secret to getting the players on board, so be it. If you do something to betray that loyalty - and in my opinion, touring an opposition's facilities mid season a few days before a game is treading a fine line - you run the risk of being torched.

                        If it was a clandestine meeting/tour without the acknowledgement of the club, Jong took a risk and it may backfire on him.
                        I don't believe there is one club that would be happy to find out their player toured another clubs premises. PLayers should not be seen anywhere near another clubs facilities.
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • FrediKanoute
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3892

                          #72
                          Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

                          I personally don't have a problem. A little like j Grant last year - he's playing games, but either the club haven't offered him a new deal or the deal doesn't suit. In my mind he is a required player, but one that has trade value.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 22159

                            #73
                            Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

                            An article from AFL web site (not by the Grub):



                            It's quoting JJ confirming he has complete trust in his team mates, understanding that there's a business side to the game the club and the player needs to work through.

                            Did note that Jong was a late withdrawal from the launch of Multicultural Round.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • ledge
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14558

                              #74
                              Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

                              Now Barrett has started on Stevens saying he isn't happy with what we have offered and clubs are circling !
                              My god I hope both stay that will Make Barrett look like a right idiot with a cause.
                              Bring back the biff

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #75
                                Re: Lin Jong Tours Collingwood's Facilities

                                Originally posted by ledge
                                Now Barrett has started on Stevens saying he isn't happy with what we have offered and clubs are circling !
                                My god I hope both stay that will Make Barrett look like a right idiot with a cause.
                                Stevens has probably got some serious currency in the market. Players come and go, without touring opposition clubs just before clutch games mid season. If we turned Jong into say Vardy (who we are reported looking into) and Stevens (with some extra cream) into a Prestia (who we are reported looking into) or like a Steve Hill, that's probably not the worst outcome in the world with Clay Smith back and Dunkley & Webb earmarked for inside grunt work that Jong & Stevens provide and we get the ruck/forward and midfield class user we allegedly want.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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