Mr September? How Ugle-Hagan can be like Buddy

[Sedat]

Re: Mr September? How Ugle-Hagan can be like Buddy

In his defence all I'll say is that he's done some very, very good things this year and his season generally was a big improvement on last year. I think we might be expecting alot from him given he's still very young and raw.

Calsher Dear had 7 shots at goal and he is a good 3 years younger and rawer than Marra.

He's got the big contract and with that there is a minimum expectation on performance and effort. He wasn't the lone ranger last night but that was not good enough in terms of effort, workrate and conversion. He needs to get better and for longer in 2025.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Mr September? How Ugle-Hagan can be like Buddy

Calsher Dear had 7 shots at goal and he is a good 3 years younger and rawer than Marra.

He's got the big contract and with that there is a minimum expectation on performance and effort. He wasn't the lone ranger last night but that was not good enough in terms of effort, workrate and conversion. He needs to get better and for longer in 2025.

There was a lot more supply that's a harsh comparison.
He wasn't great but he wasnt the reason we lost is the point I'm trying to make.

Point the blame where it should be.

Midfield.

[1eyedog]

Re: Mr September? How Ugle-Hagan can be like Buddy

Calsher Dear had 7 shots at goal and he is a good 3 years younger and rawer than Marra.

He's got the big contract and with that there is a minimum expectation on performance and effort. He wasn't the lone ranger last night but that was not good enough in terms of effort, workrate and conversion. He needs to get better and for longer in 2025.

20 more i50s helps and so does disposal efficiency going inside. Felt like we hit maybe three targets inside F50 all night?

Agree with you he needs to keep improving year by year.

[Grantysghost]

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20 more i50s helps and so does disposal efficiency going inside. Felt like we hit maybe three targets inside F50 all night?

Agree with you he needs to keep improving year by year.

Chol was the real mvp.

They can't win a flag with him up there SHIRLEY!

[D Mitchell]

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20 more i50s helps and so does disposal efficiency going inside. Felt like we hit maybe three targets inside F50 all night?....

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That mark Ugle-Hagan took, just outside the goalsquare, is what we want to see only multiple times during a game. What we don’t want to see is the subsequent muffed sitter. In his 4 years with the Club, he's had 7 games anywhere near commensurate with the hype, 2 games of 5 goals 2022, 2023 and 3 games of that or thereabouts this year. The few that criticise the lad’s games point to

1. poor kicking.
2. lack of 2^nd and 3^rd efforts, toss in lack of urgency, chase and hanging ‘round the outside of packs waving arms “handball it to me”.
3. apparent criticism of team mates when he bungles yet another opportunity;

His many failures are excused by

1. poor service from upfield (from arguably the best midfield in the competition) and a half back line that has included Dale, Richards and Daniel.
2. time taken for the development of young talls (cf, Darcy, not to mention Dear ?). He’s been muscled up for the last 2 years, he’s no skinny kid.
3. lack of opportunity. He’s spent most of at least the last 2 years as the designated close-to-goal target.
4. massive potential.

Four years, now. By any objective standard, taking into account what the Club’s invested and the, well, sort of, no. 1 draft pick status, a failure, much hype and expectation, little result. It’s time to get real.

[Grantysghost]

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In his 4 years with the Club, he's had 7 games anywhere near commensurate with the hype, 2 games of 5 goals 2022, 2023 nad 3 games of that or thereabouts this year. The few that criticise point to
(a) poor kicking;
(b)service from up field;
(b) udeliver

[Bullies]

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Yeah that's all fair enough.

In his defence all I'll say is that he's done some very, very good things this year and his season generally was a big improvement on last year. I think we might be expecting alot from him given he's still very young and raw.

If he takes the money i think we have a right to expect more. He just doesn't work himself into a game if things don't go his way. You can see when he is off he will play from behind and give his team mates the stare. His body language is horrible.

[D Mitchell]

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Good Afternoon, GG.

Whilst I, very modestly, claim the highest expertise at footy appreciation, commentary and criticism, my IT skills are the lesser. I'd tried entering my post direct, too many IT issues so ended up drafting in word, cutting and pasting. I hope your response to the fuller version will be kinder.

[Grantysghost]

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Good Afternoon, GG.

Whilst I, very modestly, claim the highest expertise at footy appreciation, commentary and criticism, my IT skills are the lesser. I'd tried entering my post direct, too many IT issues so ended up drafting in word, cutting and pasting. I hope your response to the fuller version will be kinder.

Ha. I love that gif when I've run out of energy to argue. All in good fun.

[GVGjr]

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If he takes the money i think we have a right to expect more. He just doesn't work himself into a game if things don't go his way. You can see when he is off he will play from behind and give his team mates the stare. His body language is horrible.

I agree with the if you earn the big money then a high level of expectation is part of that. He's young and his bad form is really noticeable but the club needs to be sitting down with him and pointing that out and coming up with ways of him being able to deal better with the poorer days.

I didn't really notice him staring at his team mates but it does appear to be a reasonable course of action for anyone trying to work their way out of a bad day. It's a bit like cursing red lights in the car when you just can't get a reasonable run at things.

There is a bit to work on with Marra, his best is really good and his bad days are real dirty ones. He will come good.

[Grantysghost]

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Are we sure he's on these mega bucks we keep speculating about?

[GVGjr]

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Are we sure he's on these mega bucks we keep speculating about?

There are some speculation that he is but the shorter term deal might indicate he's signed in good faith with a more reasonable deal and then hopefully cash in once the salary cap increases. I doubt he's on 1M now (he might be) but he will soon be on 1.2M or more once the cap increases.

[D Mitchell]

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I a....he car when you just can't get a reasonable run at things.

There is a bit to work on with Marra, his best is really good and his bad days are real dirty ones. He will come good.

Tall forwards have to do more than take the odd speccie within range and not slot it. The game's constantly moving. Bev won a Premiership using a second tier tall forward and a ruckman cum fullback as ruckmen. It's 3 years, now. Ugle-Hagan has to be held to an objective standard. I acknowledge your patience.

[chef]

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He's not going to peak for another 2-3 seasons, he'll be fine.

Had a mare but I'm sure he'll learn from it.

[DOG GOD]

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His body language most of the time stinks. He misses a sitter, has a little laugh.
He needs a rocket up his arse for a massive pre season, plus a really good kicking coach.
When things don’t go his way he’s like a grade 8 sook.
Am I being harsh ? Probably.
But I think his bad games warrant it.