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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21844

    #61
    Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

    Originally posted by Mofra
    He drops the ball very close to his quad, the replays at the game made it look very awkward.
    I've noticed this, and I'm gratefull that this is his major issue. As his running training and skills training develop now he is in the elite system pushing his ball drop further out is probably an easiser issue to deal with than running around corners or having a high ball drop might be.

    Some kicking techniques can't be helped, while others can. Extending the arms forward is something that can be trained over time, moreso than other issues. He just needs to be dedicated to it.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #62
      Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

      I just dont understand why we dont play griffen purely outside. we have so many in and
      under types now its ridiculous.

      get it into his hands as often as possible, and failing that cooney, dalhous (at least seems to gain about 30 metres with a bit of toe before he even kicks it) etc.

      even smith / shereman etc while not elite kicks could be very dangerous linking up with
      your griffens and cooneys as long as they play to their strenths . boyd through sheer willpower tries to do it all himself sometimes when things arent going our way. in other
      words what is actually a good character trait is his greatest weakness also.

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      • mjp
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7382

        #63
        Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
        A long handball is as good as a short kick. As long as he gets it where it needs to go, don't care if its a handball or a kick.
        It isn't as simple as that.

        A kick can be used to stop play by either kicker or receiver. A long handball simply must be an attacking option only and needs to 'lead' the receiver into open space.

        A long handball might be as good as a short kick - but it sends a different message to the receiver and has different implications. Players who struggle to kick short and elect for a 15m handball instead can cause problems for their team-mates if the opposition react in a way that was unexpected by the handballer - or in fact if he simply failed to account to one of them.

        Whenever I see a long handball to a stationery player I seriously wonder what the intention of the disposer is.
        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          #64
          Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

          Originally posted by mjp
          It isn't as simple as that.

          A kick can be used to stop play by either kicker or receiver. A long handball simply must be an attacking option only and needs to 'lead' the receiver into open space.

          A long handball might be as good as a short kick - but it sends a different message to the receiver and has different implications. Players who struggle to kick short and elect for a 15m handball instead can cause problems for their team-mates if the opposition react in a way that was unexpected by the handballer - or in fact if he simply failed to account to one of them.

          Whenever I see a long handball to a stationery player I seriously wonder what the intention of the disposer is.
          That would depend on who is doing the handball, from where to who. Spreading from the contest by hand, less errors seem to be made by our captain. 20 effective possessions have to be better than 30 that result in 4 goals by the opposition.
          Last edited by Ghost Dog; 06-04-2012, 06:19 PM.
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          • Maddog37
            WOOF Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3132

            #65
            Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

            Interesting that Griff had a 48% disposal efficiency against the Cows and no mention on any threads about it.........

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66851

              #66
              Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

              Originally posted by Maddog37
              Interesting that Griff had a 48% disposal efficiency against the Cows and no mention on any threads about it.........
              He isnot a scapegoat some others
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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66851

                #67
                Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

                Disposal effeciency this week was 71%, good come back from the captain.
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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66851

                  #68
                  Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

                  Well, Boyd let himself down big time this week. After doing all the hard work and picking up 44 disposals, he only had a disposal efficiency of 50%.
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                  • The Bulldogs Bite
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11271

                    #69
                    Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Well, Boyd let himself down big time this week. After doing all the hard work and picking up 44 disposals, he only had a disposal efficiency of 50%.
                    He really was a turnover machine today.

                    His work rate is quite unbelievable and his ability to win the ball in a contest is perhaps better than any other player in the competition, but boy -- his disposal is really ordinary and it hurts us.
                    W00F!

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15335

                      #70
                      Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Disposal effeciency this week was 71%, good come back from the captain.
                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Well, Boyd let himself down big time this week. After doing all the hard work and picking up 44 disposals, he only had a disposal efficiency of 50%.
                      Bornadog, I was hoping for a negative free week and was disappointed when I saw you decided to comment on the match vote thread and this thread about Boyd's disposal.

                      But due credit to you, as you call the good and bad.

                      Hopefully this thread doesn't dominate this weeks discussion.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • Doggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 419

                        #71
                        Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

                        He also had 50% of his 44 possessions contested.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66851

                          #72
                          Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

                          Originally posted by azabob
                          Bornadog, I was hoping for a negative free week and was disappointed when I saw you decided to comment on the match vote thread and this thread about Boyd's disposal.

                          But due credit to you, as you call the good and bad.

                          Hopefully this thread doesn't dominate this weeks discussion.
                          Yeah, sorry about that, I was a bit frustrated that he was in the votes and I just couldn't give him votes for butchering the ball. I love Boyd but he needs to handball more than kick.
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                          • Ghost Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 9404

                            #73
                            Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Yeah, sorry about that, I was a bit frustrated that he was in the votes and I just couldn't give him votes for butchering the ball. I love Boyd but he needs to handball more than kick.
                            Some players just look like they have a few extra seconds. Boyd is not one. I think he carries the weight of the world on his shoulders and needs to relax a little. Some of the out of bounds on the full were just plain odd!
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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66851

                              #74
                              Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              Some players just look like they have a few extra seconds. Boyd is not one. I think he carries the weight of the world on his shoulders and needs to relax a little. Some of the out of bounds on the full were just plain odd!
                              No, lack of skill.
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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15475

                                #75
                                Re: Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

                                Do his 'stab' passes ever hit the intended target??... Maybe 5%.

                                Just needs to play within in his limitations & skill set.

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