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  • AndrewP6
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 8142

    #16
    Re: 'Djitti' calls

    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
    It was fairly widely reported at the time that he got a 3 year deal. It's not as if it was just a figment of some posters imagination.
    Originally posted by Bulldog4life
    Was it? It was widely reported on WOOF I give you that.
    I've not been able to find any confirmation of a three year deal on any site other than here.
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    • Go_Dogs
      Hall of Fame
      • Jan 2007
      • 10253

      #17
      Re: 'Djitti' calls

      Originally posted by Bulldog4life
      Was it? It was widely reported on WOOF I give you that.
      You're right, it's one that we at WOOF got wrong. Unfortunately we all make mistakes, and given the club doesn't publicly disclose many details about contracts it is often difficult to get solid verification.

      2 years rather than 3 is certainly a more prudent list management decision, however we still got dudded on the trade by giving up a 3rd round selection Geelong only used to elevate a rookie - we could have done with another, earlier selection. If Geelong were only elevating a rookie, any pick what have been sufficient.
      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #18
        Re: 'Djitti' calls

        Originally posted by Griffen#16
        You're right, it's one that we at WOOF got wrong. Unfortunately we all make mistakes, and given the club doesn't publicly disclose many details about contracts it is often difficult to get solid verification.

        2 years rather than 3 is certainly a more prudent list management decision, however we still got dudded on the trade by giving up a 3rd round selection Geelong only used to elevate a rookie - we could have done with another, earlier selection. If Geelong were only elevating a rookie, any pick what have been sufficient.
        So we payed overs, when a lower than 3rd round pick would have been fine. Correct?
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        • Go_Dogs
          Hall of Fame
          • Jan 2007
          • 10253

          #19
          Re: 'Djitti' calls

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          So we payed overs, when a lower than 3rd round pick would have been fine. Correct?
          Yes. Geelong could have used any pick to upgrade Pods - so it appears we got bullied into giving up more than we should have.
          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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          • ledge
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2007
            • 14554

            #20
            Re: 'Djitti' calls

            Originally posted by Griffen#16
            Yes. Geelong could have used any pick to upgrade Pods - so it appears we got bullied into giving up more than we should have.
            Hindsight is sometimes not a good thing
            Bring back the biff

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 22155

              #21
              Re: 'Djitti' calls

              Originally posted by Griffen#16
              Yes. Geelong could have used any pick to upgrade Pods - so it appears we got bullied into giving up more than we should have.
              Who's to say that Geelong didn't have their eye on a player and thought they'd need our third rounder to get them? Then when draft day came along, that player was gone at pick 58 so instead they upgraded Pods with that pick and finished up for the day?
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • chef
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 14748

                #22
                Re: 'Djitti' calls

                Originally posted by jeemak
                Who's to say that Geelong didn't have their eye on a player and thought they'd need our third rounder to get them? Then when draft day came along, that player was gone at pick 58 so instead they upgraded Pods with that pick and finished up for the day?
                They may have needed it in trade week, but after getting it their deal fell through. No one knows for sure.
                The curse is dead.

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                • Go_Dogs
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10253

                  #23
                  Re: 'Djitti' calls

                  Originally posted by jeemak
                  Who's to say that Geelong didn't have their eye on a player and thought they'd need our third rounder to get them? Then when draft day came along, that player was gone at pick 58 so instead they upgraded Pods with that pick and finished up for the day?
                  Certainly possible (although I'm unsure if they would've had the list space to still upgrade Pods if they'd selected someone else at 58?). I guess it's the end result of them using it to upgrade that's frustrating.
                  Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 45577

                    #24
                    Re: 'Djitti' calls

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    A lot of people on this forum were scathing of the Club about signing him for three, yet appears this is not true.
                    Was that information shared by the coach?
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67705

                      #25
                      Re: 'Djitti' calls

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Was that information shared by the coach?
                      Don't know.
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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15547

                        #26
                        Re: 'Djitti' calls

                        I was told by someone who should know that he was signed for 3 years.

                        The story goes that it was in our best interests financially to sign him for 3 than 2 so we went that way... not sure if there was an option clause at the end of the 2nd year though.

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                        • Sockeye Salmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6365

                          #27
                          Re: 'Djitti' calls

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          Who's to say that Geelong didn't have their eye on a player and thought they'd need our third rounder to get them? Then when draft day came along, that player was gone at pick 58 so instead they upgraded Pods with that pick and finished up for the day?
                          Maybe during trade week but draft day they didn't have list space to draft another player

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 22155

                            #28
                            Re: 'Djitti' calls

                            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                            Maybe during trade week but draft day they didn't have list space to draft another player
                            Fair enough, if that's the case. I was confused about when final list lodgements had to be made, I suppose it makes sense that it would be prior to the national draft rather than the preseason draft, to ensure each delisted player gets equal chance to get back on a senior or rookie list.

                            The point of my post was to highlight that there might have been a reason for offering pick 58 for him, other than general incompetence from Fantasia. We clearly wanted him on our list, and considering many on this board have been proven incorrect when it came to his contracted tenure at the club I figured there might be a chance the same might apply to the circumstances around the compensation provided to Geelong for his services.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • Sedat
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 11605

                              #29
                              Re: 'Djitti' calls

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              The point of my post was to highlight that there might have been a reason for offering pick 58 for him
                              I liken this situation to Tim Callan, where we only gave up a pick downgrade (from 61 to 63 from memory) to get Callan to the club. We got a speculative player and we got to keep a sllightly worse pick. Geelong are very reasonable players during trade week (eg: Steven King, Charlie Gardiner, Tim Callan) so we should have easily been able to negotiate something similar for DJ and kept a slightly worse 3rd round pick, especally considering he was about to get delisted. DJ is very much a speculative trade and on the back of 3 games in 3 years at Geelong, giving up a 3rd round draft pick for him was well over the odds (especially considering he was about to get delisted) - it meant that our first 'live' pick in that draft was 70 odd.

                              Anyway good luck to DJ. I'm not sold yet but Sunday's effort was encouraging. He still fumbles far too many ground balls for my liking, an area that really should be a strength for someone as agile and low to the ground as he is.
                              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 22155

                                #30
                                Re: 'Djitti' calls

                                Agree on his ball handling skills, and agree that he still has a long way to go with respect to earning an extension on his contract.

                                Your point about the Cats being reasonable traders is fair enough, though I still don't think it accounts for either the Bulldogs having to offer a pick that was better than that potentially offered to them to secure his services, or them requiring that pick to use in another trade.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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