Goldstein decision 'wrong'

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Goldstein decision 'wrong'

I'm not going to say you are wrong, but I'd like to see the rules of that one?
Every time you see a player take a mark, play on, then get tackled, it's a holding the ball decision. I really thought you are forfeiting "prior" if you play on.

Here is the specific rule you wished to see from The Laws of the Game. I have it in a PDF document but it's also on the web.

15.2.3 Holding the Football — Prior Opportunity/No Prior Opportunity

Where the field Umpire is satisfied that a Player in possession of the football:

(a) has had a prior opportunity to dispose of the football, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against that Player if the Player does not Kick or Handball the football immediately when they are Correctly Tackled; or

(b) has not had a prior opportunity to dispose of the football, the field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against that Player if, upon being Correctly Tackled, the Player does not Correctly Dispose or attempt to Correctly Dispose of the football after being given a reasonable opportunity to do so.

(c) Except in the instance of a poor bounce or throw, a Player who takes possession of the football while contesting a bounce or throw by a field Umpire or a boundary throw in, shall be regarded as having had prior opportunity.

So a boundary throw in or ball up where possession is taken are the only two instances where prior opportunity is deemed to have occurred.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Goldstein decision 'wrong'

Aren't we all going around in circles? Gieschen admitted it was wrong, nothing you can do about it now but move on…

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Goldstein decision 'wrong'

Giesch only said it was the wrong decision because he ran a couple of metres after he played on, which would have been his prior opportunity.

If he'd only taken one step, the rule book/interpretation seems to be that it is not prior opportunity, and therefore should have been play on.

who cares about if??. DFA OWNED Goldstein and the umpire robbed me of an unabashed Doggy dance celebration at the game. How dare he!!!

Bob Dylan's status as eker is seriously under threat...

[LostDoggy]

Re: Goldstein decision 'wrong'

Aren't we all going around in circles? Gieschen admitted it was wrong, nothing you can do about it now but move on…

The disscussion has changed to "is a mark, prior oppertunity" we all know the decision on the weekend was wrong.

So a boundary throw in or ball up where possession is taken are the only two instances where prior opportunity is deemed to have occurred.

Totally agree with what you posted CD. Just woundering if it stated anywhere if a player marks it, is it deemed prior?

[Bornadog]

Re: Goldstein decision 'wrong'

The disscussion has changed to "is a mark, prior opportunity" we all know the decision on the weekend was wrong.
Totally agree with what you posted CD. Just woundering if it stated anywhere if a player marks it, is it deemed prior?

I think I explained that earlier; if the umpire calls play on then it becomes prior opportunity. Think about it, when you take a mark, in effect play stops. Its the action that follows that will determine if its prior opportunity. If you elect to just kick or handball from over the mark then the opposition can't tackle you, if you go over the mark, or run off line, then play on is called and you are caught, then I would presume you have had prior opportunity.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Goldstein decision 'wrong'

Just by taking a mark, does not automatically imply you've had a prior opportunity..

I think I explained that earlier; if the umpire calls play on then it becomes prior opportunity.

This is my grey area. If a guy takes a mark he cannot be touched. If so it will be a 50m penalty. If he plays on (play on is called by the umpire, not the player) he had prior.

[Bornadog]

Re: Goldstein decision 'wrong'

This is my grey area. If a guy takes a mark he cannot be touched. If so it will be a 50m penalty. If he plays on (play on is called by the umpire, not the player) he had prior.

Correct, if play on is called and gets tackled and doesn't dispose the ball correctly, then its a free.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Goldstein decision 'wrong'

Correct, if play on is called and gets tackled and doesn't dispose the ball correctly, then its a free.

Sweet. Sorted.

We must praise Addision's great tackle. Great chase and to not give away a free was brilliant.

It's this sort of effort that separates top 8 teams from bottom 8 teams. Full credit to Addision. I guess thats what stings most. He got a kick in the guts for his effort, not rewarded.

[GVGjr]

Re: Goldstein decision 'wrong'

We must praise Addision's great tackle. Great chase and to not give away a free was brilliant.

In all this discussion only a couple have concentrated on Dylan A's brilliant effort. Had the correct decision been adjudicated, the tackle and goal saving effort would in all probability been viewed as a match defining play, and Addison would likely been given due credit for his effort.
To make up that amount of ground on a player who was already in motion, and to tackle with such desperation, and still not push him in the back was great.
For mine, well bloody done Dylan...yous was robbed!

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Goldstein decision 'wrong'

In all this discussion only a couple have concentrated on Dylan A's brilliant effort. Had the correct decision been adjudicated, the tackle and goal saving effort would in all probability been viewed as a match defining play, and Addison would likely been given due credit for his effort.
To make up that amount of ground on a player who was already in motion, and to tackle with such desperation, and still not push him in the back was great.
For mine, well bloody done Dylan...yous was robbed!

PaulV, right on the money.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Goldstein decision 'wrong'

To make up that amount of ground on a player who was already in motion, and to tackle with such desperation, and still not push him in the back was great.
For mine, well bloody done Dylan...yous was robbed!

the thing is, it would have been easy for him to capitulate and accept that an easy goal was going to be kicked. And I don't think anyone would blame or think less of him for that. But he didn't, he pushed and got to the man. Hope B.M shows this to his players at training.