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  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9901

    #1

    Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown



    THE alignment between the Western Bulldogs and Williamstown appears on is last legs as a major shakeup in the VFL continues.

    With both clubs weighing up their options after a tense season, there is a strong chance the Bulldogs will now field stand-alone side in the state competition next season.
    In what would be a popular move for fans, the team could potentially play out of Whitten Oval with selected games further afield in the western suburbs.
    It is understood the Seagulls held a board meeting last Friday night to discuss moves to break away from the Dogs after a season of bickering over the delicate balancing act between winning games and developing young AFL listed players.
    Williamstown general manager Brendan Curry last night refused to speculate on when the alignment would end, but he earlier this month said the Seagulls were eyeing a stand alone existence.

    Bulldogs chief executive Simon Garlick said the club had a "strategic objective" to have a stand-alone team at some time in the future.
    Both clubs have an agreement in place until the end of 2014, but that can still end if Williamstown walks.
    The VFL is already expanding to 14 teams next season, with Essendon and Bendigo parting ways to create separate teams in the feeder league.
    Richmond and Coburg will combine for the final time next season, before the Tigers go it alone in 2014.
    The Dogs remain diplomatic about the relationship with Williamstown, but the move to have their own team would be a significant boost to senior coach Brendan McCartney's teaching methods.
    It would cost the Dogs about $400,000 to join the likes of Collingwood, Geelong and the Bombers in fielding their own reserves team.
    With the landscape changing at a rapid pace in the VFL, the league's general manager Grant Williams will detail plans for the future in this weekend's VFL Record.
    Williams and other AFL Victoria staffers are adamant there is no crisis despite the latest spat between aligned clubs.
    "The competition will always be evolving," Williams said.
    He denied speculation that all AFL clubs would jump ship and end alignments.
    "There will always be a combination of partial alignments, alignments and stand alone teams," Williams said.
    "We think the standard of competition is very good and provides ample opportunity for AFL players to develop and gives ample opportunity for non-listed AFL players to develop as well."
    Williams distanced himself from any tension between aligned clubs, saying that was a matter for the clubs.
    But AFL Victoria has been in discussions with both clubs on an on-going basis.
    Williams confirmed that it was possible that 15 VFL team competition could be next year if the Dogs and Seagulls split.

    Last edited by G-Mo77; 26-07-2012, 12:23 PM.
  • Missing Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8501

    #2
    Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

    Play games at Whitten Oval under the name of FOOTSCRAY>>>>would LOVE that to happen

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    • SlimPickens
      Coaching Staff
      • Aug 2010
      • 2929

      #3
      Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

      Reckon the split might be inevitable. Although mildly disappointed, long term I can see the value in having an exclusive Bulldogs reserve team with top up players.

      Also watching a doggies team run around at WO on a fortnightly basis will pretty cool.
      "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #4
        Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

        Where are we going to find the cash?
        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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        • anfo27
          WOOF Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2003

          #5
          Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          Where are we going to find the cash?
          My thoughts exactly. Would love to see us go it alone but can we afford to do it?

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          • Eastdog
            WOOF Communtiy Organiser
            • Feb 2012
            • 18376

            #6
            Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

            Originally posted by SlimPickens
            Reckon the split might be inevitable. Although mildly disappointed, long term I can see the value in having an exclusive Bulldogs reserve team with top up players.

            Also watching a doggies team run around at WO on a fortnightly basis will pretty cool.
            Agree SlimPickens. In the long run it would be a very good thing for us. Collingwood and Geelong have gone down that route. If we don't get our own stand alone team who do you think we may align with?
            "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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            • G-Mo77
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Apr 2007
              • 9901

              #7
              Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

              Originally posted by Eastdog
              Agree SlimPickens. In the long run it would be a very good thing for us. Collingwood and Geelong have gone down that route. If we don't get our own stand alone team who do you think we may align with?
              Coburg's probably the only choice and I don't think they'll be much help, from what I hear they're in dire straits right now.

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              • Eastdog
                WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                • Feb 2012
                • 18376

                #8
                Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                Originally posted by G-Mo77
                Coburg's probably the only choice and I don't think they'll be much help, from what I hear they're in dire straits right now.
                We would have to maybe go with a VFL which is unaligned and in good financial state.
                "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                • G-Mo77
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9901

                  #9
                  Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                  Originally posted by Eastdog
                  We would have to maybe go with a VFL which is unaligned and in good financial state.
                  Only Port Melbourne fits into this criteria and there is no way they'll align with anyone.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67691

                    #10
                    Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                    Originally posted by G-Mo77
                    Bulldogs chief executive Simon Garlick said the club had a "strategic objective" to have a stand-alone team at some time in the future.
                    Looks like its inevitable at some stage in the future.

                    I think Macca has been totally unfair to Williamstown this year and has not respected the agreement we had with Willi. I can understand where he is coming from but.
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67691

                      #11
                      Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                      Where are we going to find the cash?
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                      • Eastdog
                        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 18376

                        #12
                        Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                        Originally posted by G-Mo77
                        Only Port Melbourne fits into this criteria and there is no way they'll align with anyone.
                        Yeah I would say Port Melbourne would not want to align with anyone. Frankston I believe is another VFL which is unaligned. Not sure of what their financial state.
                        "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15547

                          #13
                          Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Sponsorship
                          How achievable is this considering our standing within the AFL community?

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                          • G-Mo77
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9901

                            #14
                            Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Looks like its inevitable at some stage in the future.

                            I think Macca has been totally unfair to Williamstown this year and has not respected the agreement we had with Willi. I can understand where he is coming from but.
                            Also can understand he wants to develop players his own way but this is what is in place and he should work with Willy.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 67691

                              #15
                              Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              How achievable is this considering our standing within the AFL community?
                              I think its more of a factor of the economic situation coupled with whether our marketing department are able to achieve it.
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