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  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9901

    #16
    Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

    Originally posted by Eastdog
    Yeah I would say Port Melbourne would not want to align with anyone. Frankston I believe is another VFL which is unaligned. Not sure of what their financial state.
    Frankston are already signing VFL players for next season who aren't getting games because of AFL alignment. Seems like they've got no intention of aligning either.

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    • Eastdog
      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
      • Feb 2012
      • 18374

      #17
      Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

      Originally posted by G-Mo77
      Frankston are already signing VFL players for next season who aren't getting games because of AFL alignment. Seems like they've got no intention of aligning either.
      I believe also that Essendon and Bendigo are parting ways also. They will be unaligned as well but they also probably don't want to align with anyone.
      "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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      • G-Mo77
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Apr 2007
        • 9901

        #18
        Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

        Originally posted by Eastdog
        I believe also that Essendon and Bendigo are parting ways also. They will be unaligned as well but they also probably don't want to align with anyone.
        From what I can gather Bendigo are pretty excited about going alone. No one here thinks they can pull it off though. Their last Bendigo team, The Diggers was a disaster. Players around here are committed to their BFL teams and not many want to make the move to a VFL club.

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        • Cyberdoggie
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 2861

          #19
          Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

          Originally posted by Mantis
          How achievable is this considering our standing within the AFL community?
          Do Eastcoast Jeans still exist?

          Maybe a local pub might sponsor us.

          I can see it now, Westernbulldogs AFL team.......sponsored by "the plough hotel".

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          • Cyberdoggie
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 2861

            #20
            Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

            Originally posted by G-Mo77
            From what I can gather Bendigo are pretty excited about going alone. No one here thinks they can pull it off though. Their last Bendigo team, The Diggers was a disaster. Players around here are committed to their BFL teams and not many want to make the move to a VFL club.
            Not with the money on offer.

            A big problem with VFL teams and in particular stand alone ones.


            One or two players can earn a decent sum but the majority will earn more in local leagues,
            so unless your trying to impress afl scouts after missing out on being drafted there isn't a lot of upside to playing with a side like Bendigo if your a local.

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            • G-Mo77
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Apr 2007
              • 9901

              #21
              Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

              Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
              Not with the money on offer.

              A big problem with VFL teams and in particular stand alone ones.


              One or two players can earn a decent sum but the majority will earn more in local leagues,
              so unless your trying to impress afl scouts after missing out on being drafted there isn't a lot of upside to playing with a side like Bendigo if your a local.
              Pretty much CyberDoggie. The Bendigo community just didn't warm to the Diggers either and once they became the Bendigo Bombers they treated the town like crap and rarely showed up here, it was pretty much just Essendon wankers who supported them. The BFL comp is still #1 here and it's going to take a lot to pry, not only players away but supporters as well.

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              • angelopetraglia
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6923

                #22
                Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                We have to find the money. We have no other choice. If we can't, we basically are condemning ourselves to the bottom half of the ladder. We had the same challenges in regards to facilities and we managed a way to close this gap.

                To compete with the best teams we need to the ability to nurture and develop our own talent. The only way to do this is with our own stand alone team in the VFL.

                You only have to look at the talent that Geelong and Collingwood have produced through their stand alone VFL teams.

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                • Eastdog
                  WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 18374

                  #23
                  Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                  Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                  We have to find the money. We have no other choice. If we can't, we basically are condemning ourselves to the bottom half of the ladder. We had the same challenges in regards to facilities and we managed a way to close this gap.

                  To compete with the best teams we need to the ability to nurture and develop our own talent. The only way to do this is with our own stand alone team in the VFL.

                  You only have to look at the talent that Geelong and Collingwood have produced through their stand alone VFL teams.
                  Quite right angelopetraglia. We need to have our own stand alone team to produce that talent. Essendon will probably go down this route as well now and probably Richmond according to the article as they are going to split from Coburg in the next year or so.
                  "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                  • Jeanette54
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1314

                    #24
                    Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                    If a stand alone "Footscray" VFL side can somehow use the (now) excellent facilities at Western Oval, alongside our current team; then the advantages to player/team development are even more obvious.

                    Almost back to the days of the seniors and the twos.

                    Now if we could only arrange for the "twos" to play a curtain raiser before the main game....... :-)

                    Oh, dream on !!

                    How readily the AFL squandered the fans love of watching their developing players when it dumped the reserves competition.
                    The truth will set you free,
                    but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67684

                      #25
                      Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                      Originally posted by Jeanette54
                      How readily the AFL squandered the fans love of watching their developing players when it dumped the reserves competition.
                      Biggest mistake made by the AFL ever.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        #26
                        Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                        I agree BAD. Great idea!
                        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          #27
                          Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                          Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                          We have to find the money. We have no other choice. If we can't, we basically are condemning ourselves to the bottom half of the ladder. We had the same challenges in regards to facilities and we managed a way to close this gap.

                          To compete with the best teams we need to the ability to nurture and develop our own talent. The only way to do this is with our own stand alone team in the VFL.

                          You only have to look at the talent that Geelong and Collingwood have produced through their stand alone VFL teams.
                          Exactly my thoughts.
                          It's to difficult a juggling act, In fairness every club is "resting" players as we're playingthe most physically demanding sport in the world.

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                          • Remi Moses
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14785

                            #28
                            Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                            Originally posted by Jeanette54
                            If a stand alone "Footscray" VFL side can somehow use the (now) excellent facilities at Western Oval, alongside our current team; then the advantages to player/team development are even more obvious.

                            Almost back to the days of the seniors and the twos.

                            Now if we could only arrange for the "twos" to play a curtain raiser before the main game....... :-)

                            Oh, dream on !!

                            How readily the AFL squandered the fans love of watching their developing players when it dumped the reserves competition.
                            To much. Next you' ll be asking to have a kick on the ground after a game!!
                            Then they'll be training at 5 o'clock on a Thursday!
                            Just to much

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                            • Axe Man
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 11486

                              #29
                              Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                              Just playing devil's advocate here for a second, if having a stand alone reserves side is such an advantage, why don't all the clubs do it? Obviously us, North and maybe Melbourne may struggle for the cash, but surely the other clubs could afford it. In particular does anybody know why Hawthorn still align with Box Hill? They have plenty of money for a stand alone side, yet it doesn't seem to be hurting their on field results at present.

                              On a side note, if AFL clubs increasingly choose to go alone, surely an AFL reserves comp would have to be reinstated and split from the VFL? Otherwise there will be +20 sides in the VFL!

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                              • Maddog37
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3132

                                #30
                                Re: Western Bulldogs may split with Williamstown

                                4,000 members put in $100 each. I would be more than happy to go for that.

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