Dog 'in dark place'

[EasternWest]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Technically not an adult yet. Look I get where you are coming from, but it sounds like he needs help and its up to some senior people to give him some guidance and assistance.

Can you elaborate on this?

[Topdog]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Technically not an adult yet.

He's 20 not 17. Technically and any other way you look at it he is an adult.

[KT31]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Technically not an adult yet. Look I get where you are coming from, but it sounds like he needs help and its up to some senior people to give him some guidance and assistance.

Showing your age BAD, its a bit old fashioned to suggest he is not an adult until, he gets the key to the door, at 21.

[Bornadog]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

He's 20 not 17. Technically and any other way you look at it he is an adult.

Last time I looked 21 is the adult age.

Not sure what your problem is, I was making some suggestions on how he could be helped

[Bornadog]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Showing your age BAD, its a bit old fashioned to suggest he is not an adult until, he gets the key to the door, at 21.

Maybe I am showing my age but if he wants to act like a child he he should be treated like one

[Twodogs]

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Maybe I am showing my age but if he wants to act like a child he he should be treated like one

But that reinforces the immature choices and behaviour he's been displaying so far. It used to be that you reached your majority at the age of 21 but these days it's at the age 18 that you get to vote, drink, drive, join the armed force, legally sign contracts and etc that mark you out as an adult. For all intents and purposes Tom is a grown up and has to make grown up choices. At the moment he is making some very childish choices.


If he continues down this path he will find out what a dark place the world can become. If he thinks it's bad now just because he has been caught out it will only get worse unless the choices he makes are better thought out and advised.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Last time I looked 21 is the adult age.

Not sure what your problem is, I was making some suggestions on how he could be helped

He can drink, vote and drive a car.

[Bornadog]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

He can drink, vote and drive a car.

and still act like he is immature.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

No key to door though

[mighty_west]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

and still act like he is immature.

So is Fev, and Daniel Connors and Ben Cousins etc etc, on the other hand a young Dale Morris simply refused to go out with mates chasing his dream to play AFL.

[KT31]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

He can drink, vote and drive a car.

Be tried as an adult, not as a juvenile offender.

[Topdog]

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and still act like he is immature.

Unfortunately I know 35 year olds that do the same.

btw no problem before. sometimes i type quickly and it sounds harsh. Im just typing quickly not being a *****

[LostDoggy]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Last time I looked 21 is the adult age.

Not sure what your problem is, I was making some suggestions on how he could be helped

He could be best helped by helping him realise he has to take charge of his own life. The days of mum making him school lunches are long gone. He can't blame his dickhead mates, he can't blame anything except his own stupidity. Harping on at his “senior teammates” for not getting him home is ridiculous. Yeah, they should look out for him, but that's Plan B. Plan A is looking out for himself and acting responsibly. (Gee I sound like an old bastard!)

I make my kids take responsibility for their actions. When they stuff up, I tell them it's fine that they stuff up, but they have to man up and take responsibility for the consequences. My sons are 9 and 7 and my daughter is 6. Never too young to learn!

But that reinforces the immature choices and behaviour he's been displaying so far. It used to be that you reached your majority at the age of 21 but these days it's at the age 18 that you get to vote, drink, drive, join the armed force, legally sign contracts and etc that mark you out as an adult. For all intents and purposes Tom is a grown up and has to make grown up choices. At the moment he is making some very childish choices.

If he continues down this path he will find out what a dark place the world can become. If he thinks it's bad now just because he has been caught out it will only get worse unless the choices he makes are better thought out and advised.

You can join the armed forces at 17. But I digress…

[Twodogs]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

He could be best helped by helping him realise he has to take charge of his own life. The days of mum making him school lunches are long gone. He can't blame his dickhead mates, he can't blame anything except his own stupidity. Harping on at his “senior teammates” for not getting him home is ridiculous. Yeah, they should look out for him, but that's Plan B. Plan A is looking out for himself and acting responsibly. (Gee I sound like an old bastard!)

More like a sensible bastard. It all comes down to making the correct choices in life. I know because I made a lot of incorrect choices and found myself in a very bad place. It was hard enough to climb out of it as an anonymous-I'd hate to try and do it under the full glare of the public spotlight.

But you are dead right you when you say he has to stop blaming others. You can only do it properly when you do it for #1 and not because everyone else is telling you that you have to. I had to become completely independent and stop being interdependent on others to perform certain aspects of my life.

You can join the armed forces at 17. But I digress…

I never said you couldnt! You can also join them at 18. And 19.

[Bornadog]

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He could be best helped by helping him realise he has to take charge of his own life. The days of mum making him school lunches are long gone. He can't blame his dickhead mates, he can't blame anything except his own stupidity. Harping on at his “senior teammates” for not getting him home is ridiculous. Yeah, they should look out for him, but that's Plan B. Plan A is looking out for himself and acting responsibly. (Gee I sound like an old bastard!)

I make my kids take responsibility for their actions. When they stuff up, I tell them it's fine that they stuff up, but they have to man up and take responsibility for the consequences. My sons are 9 and 7 and my daughter is 6. Never too young to learn!

More like a sensible bastard. It all comes down to making the correct choices in life. I know because I made a lot of incorrect choices and found myself in a very bad place. It was hard enough to climb out of it as an anonymous-I'd hate to try and do it under the full glare of the public spotlight.

But you are dead right you when you say he has to stop blaming others. You can only do it properly when you do it for #1 and not because everyone else is telling you that you have to. I had to become completely independent and stop being interdependent on others to perform certain aspects of my life.

All well and good, but we all know how others can influence our lives, like dickhead mates and often we don't realise it. You can call him an adult, but as someone else mentioned, adults make lots of mistakes.

The first thing that can help Libba is that he has to admit he has a problem, then he needs to get help.