Stand Alone Bulldogs VFL Team in 2014

[GVGjr]

Re: Stand Alone Bulldogs VFL Team in 2014

Yes. He didn't worry too much about the relationship, he did what was best for the bulldogs and our players.

That didn't actually work like a treat

If McCartney treated a Bulldogs VFL side like he treated Williamstown this season by resting so many players it would hardly be worth watching them.

[azabob]

Re: Stand Alone Bulldogs VFL Team in 2014

That didn't actually work like a treat

If McCartney treated a Bulldogs VFL side like he treated Williamstown this season by resting so many players it would hardly be worth watching them.

Totally agree with you, we did the wrong thing by Williamstown. Having said that I do believe Williamstown progressed further due to them playing Williamstown listed players rather than our younger players.

[Hotdog60]

Re: Stand Alone Bulldogs VFL Team in 2014

That didn't actually work like a treat

If McCartney treated a Bulldogs VFL side like he treated Williamstown this season by resting so many players it would hardly be worth watching them.

If we had our own reserve side would he still have rested those players. I suppose I'm insinuating that Macca was working to get the same setup as Geelong.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Stand Alone Bulldogs VFL Team in 2014

Who gets Peter German in 2014?

[Greystache]

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Who gets Peter German in 2014?

He's a Bulldogs employee, assuming he's wanted in 2014 he'll be coaching the Bulldogs VFL team.

[Bornadog]

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Totally agree with you, we did the wrong thing by Williamstown. Having said that I do believe Williamstown progressed further due to them playing Williamstown listed players rather than our younger players.

Williamstown weren't happy last year when they went into a Grand Final with a lot of young Bulldog players against Port who were fielding an older side. Willi thought they could have done better with less Bulldogs players. They tried that in the second half of this season and ended up winning 8 in a row, until losing to Port again.

I think both clubs are happy to part ways.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Stand Alone Bulldogs VFL Team in 2014

I'd imagine some players didn't play due to the rigours of AfL .
Were Willy upset that they had to many " Bulldog " listed players in last years GF?
Clearly the objectives of aligned clubs and their partner are poles apart.
Got a feeling the success of the club on the other side of the West Gate is gnawing away with some .

[Remi Moses]

Re: Stand Alone Bulldogs VFL Team in 2014

Williamstown weren't happy last year when they went into a Grand Final with a lot of young Bulldog players against Port who were fielding an older side. Willi thought they could have done better with less Bulldogs players. They tried that in the second half of this season and ended up winning 8 in a row, until losing to Port again.

I think both clubs are happy to part ways.

Spot on.

[GVGjr]

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If we had our own reserve side would he still have rested those players. I suppose I'm insinuating that Macca was working to get the same setup as Geelong.

I think you are giving him too much credit. It's not his decision to make.

[GVGjr]

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He's a Bulldogs employee, assuming he's wanted in 2014 he'll be coaching the Bulldogs VFL team.

We should be getting Adam Potter on board next season and handing him the job in 2014.

[boydogs]

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I think you are giving him too much credit. It's not his decision to make.

Ever seen Moneyball?

[Twodogs]

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Yeah, cos it never got wet or windy at WO

There's a big difference between Port Gellibrand near the sea with the wind coming in straight off the Antarctic and Western Oval though.


I can rememeber doing trade subjects at Willy Tech and it was the coldest I've ever been. On the upside I discovered the great joy of how much a fried dimsim could warm you up though.

[GVGjr]

Re: Stand Alone Bulldogs VFL Team in 2014

Ever seen Moneyball?

Read the book a long while back and saw the movie when it came out.

[Mofra]

Re: Stand Alone Bulldogs VFL Team in 2014

I don't buy this notion that players couldn't be developed correctly within the current arrangement.
We got to 3 Preliminary Finals with the current arrangement and I don't for one second think we didn't go further because of not fielding our own VFL side.

Having young players competing for spots should be seen as a positive not a negative.

We have a very limited budget and I'm not convinced having control of the VFL is the wisest way of spending our money.

4 of the last 5 grand finals have been won by teams with a stand alone reserves side.

It's not that they can't be developed, it's that they could be developed better and that's what a standalone VFL team indicates IMO.

[GVGjr]

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4 of the last 5 grand finals have been won by teams with a stand alone reserves side.

It's not that they can't be developed, it's that they could be developed better and that's what a standalone VFL team indicates IMO.

By cashed up clubs who have everything else already in place?

If it can be done right of course it could be a positive but if due to budget constraints we can't attract to the sort of top up players we need to make us competitive I can see a situation where we are in the finals of the AFL but not having our VFL side playing when we need to get some game time into players.