Lake gone

**Dry Rot** · 08-10-2012, 04:55 PM

Re: Lake gone

Anyone know why we had to do this on day one?

**chef** · 08-10-2012, 04:57 PM

Re: Lake gone

Originally posted by Dry Rot

Anyone know why we had to do this on day one?

Maybe we just wanted to move him on as quickly as possible.

**LostDoggy** · 08-10-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by jazzadogs

Fair enough if the issue is more with the specifics of the trade, rather than the fact that we got rid of Lake.

I think it would have been great if we could have got an earlier first round pick, but can't imagine it would have happened.

Doesn't help that Hawthorn are the minor premiers does it?

Originally posted by chef

But he doesn't want to stay(I wish he did). He wants to play finals.

So compared to losing him for a 2nd or 3rd round pick(or nothing at the end of next year) I would say it is an awesome deal.

We now have 3 first round picks.

We got a first round pick, albeit Pick 21, but it's not Hawthorns problem that they finished top. Now, looking at it from a Hawthorn view, they gave up their first round pick for a 31 year old defender past his prime, that they could have had next year for free.

Originally posted by Greystache

Great post TAMA.

We need not only a change in culture from the club but also from our supporters. We celebrate individuals and mediocre short term wins, yet we turn on the club when we try to build for the long term. I think we'll come out the other side a better club, but it's going to be a bumpy ride for now.

It's like you crawled into my brain. Totally agree with every single letter.

I'm shattered to see Lake go, but happy with the trade. He's 31 guys. We're not Essendon, ok?

**G-Mo77** · 08-10-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Dry Rot

Anyone know why we had to do this on day one?

Would love to know why as well. Maybe Hawthorn spun it like the WB are spinning it to the fans. We got a first and second round pick. WOO HOO!

Translated to: We moved 6 places to get into the first round and got a late 2nd round pick. BOO HOO!

**Mofra** · 08-10-2012, 05:14 PM

Re: Lake gone

Originally posted by Dry Rot

Anyone know why we had to do this on day one?

You wouldn't be the only one asking the question. The speed in which this was done makes me wonder if we really did canvass all the best possible trades for him.

It's not trading Lake out that has me worried, it's the value we get in exchange.

**Bulldog4life** · 08-10-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by BornAScragger

Doesn't help that Hawthorn are the minor premiers does it?

We got a first round pick, albeit Pick 21, but it's not Hawthorns problem that they finished top. Now, looking at it from a Hawthorn view, they gave up their first round pick for a 31 year old defender past his prime, that they could have had next year for free.

It's like you crawled into my brain. Totally agree with every single letter.

I'm shattered to see Lake go, but happy with the trade. He's 31 guys. We're not Essendon, ok?

That made me laugh.

**Bulldog4life** · 08-10-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by G-Mo77

Would love to know why as well. Maybe Hawthorn spun it like the WB are spinning it to the fans. We got a first and second round pick. WOO HOO!

Translated to: We moved 6 places to get into the first round and got a late 2nd round pick. BOO HOO!

Beats a third round pick.

**GVGjr** · 08-10-2012, 05:22 PM

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I'm never happy to trade contracted players especially guys of the ability of Lake but there must be more to this than meets the eye.

I don't think the deal is a good one either but we have a list manager who would have done the analysis and they have made the decision.

The bonus is that we will have a lot of money in the cap to explore other options.

**ledge** · 08-10-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by Dry Rot

Anyone know why we had to do this on day one?

Apparently they had been in talks a couple of weeks, maybe it was all sorted then.

**LostDoggy** · 08-10-2012, 05:27 PM

Re: Lake gone

We need to consolidate with these draft picks. I am gutted that Lake has left, but thats life. I am not convinced about Macca as yet but I can can assure you all of one thing next year. Bottom 4!!

**GVGjr** · 08-10-2012, 05:46 PM

Re: Lake gone

Originally posted by Dry Rot

Anyone know why we had to do this on day one?

No one will know exactly why but I'll speculate that it will be to free us up to push something else through.

We lose a significant amount of money off the salary cap with more to come next year with Sherman.

This has to provide us with a lot of list management opportunities.

**anfo27** · 08-10-2012, 05:48 PM

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Surely we are on the hook for some of Lakes salary? no way they can fit Lakes wage into their salary cap.

**Yankee Hotel Foxtrot** · 08-10-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by GVGjr

No one will know exactly why but I'll speculate that it will be to free us up to push something else through.

We lose a significant amount of money off the salary cap with more to come next year with Sherman.

This has to provide us with a lot of list management opportunities.

I just hope it's not pick 21 and a truckload of cash for Dawes.
If it's Mitch Brown for pick 21, then that may be worth exploring.

**GVGjr** · 08-10-2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot

I just hope it pick 21 and a truckload of cash for Dawes.
If it's Mitch Brown for pick 21, then that may be worth exploring.

Isn't Dawes?

**Yankee Hotel Foxtrot** · 08-10-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by GVGjr

Isn't Dawes?

I personally don't rate Dawes. I think paying a 1st round pick for him is overs.
I think he's the classic type guy who can contribute in a top quality team, but who would struggle in a ordinary side, like we currently are.
Also he is a very unreliable shot for goal, just what we don't need more of.

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