Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney

[comrade]

Re: Clubs circle Bulldogs star Cooney

Comrade there truly is more to life than just money.

From what I have heard about Cooney, money is a big priority.

If he can play like this for two more years, then the likes of Macrae/Hrovat will take over, but in the meantime we need him (and not in the backline).

I agree that he has definite worth for development purposes though let's be honest, he has never shown much in the way of leadership (on field and on track).

I don't buy the money thing - but when it comes down to it and the club is showing no interest in him and another offer comes, then he will take.

No doubt we are showing interest and would prefer to reach terms and keep him at the Club - but it must be on our terms, not Cooney's. If he's cracked the sads over it and wants to go, fair enough. Let's draft a good young kid with the compo pick who will be around when (if) we make our way back up the ladder.

[GVGjr]

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The only reason he wouldn't want to play for the club is mistreatment.

Just like any employee in any organisation. You look after them, you manage them well, they will be loyal.

Players are a bit stronger than you give them credit for. Lakes character in public got questioned by all the coaches a few years back and if there was ever a case of mistreatment that was it.

[AndrewP6]

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TBH I don't think that is the case at all. Cooney has never struck me as anything even close to being a leader. I don't think he's professional or a good example to the young players at the club.

He is playing like a man totally disinterested at the moment, and is a shadow of his former self. I'm not sure that we should expend too much energy, or salary cap space, more importantly, on a bloke that doesn't want to be here.

The first point I have read a number of times here, but to be honest I just don't see it. He's getting good numbers, even if from accounts he didn't play well on the weekend he sure wasn't alone.

The second point I'm interested to know how you know this.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Offer him what we are prepared to offer him, and no more. If he wants a premiership or bigger bucks, let's not stand in the way. He was a great player, but he isn't anymore. How long will he have left in the game? It's the unknown, but it's likely 2-3 years max.

He'd be a smart pick up from a club in contention, but that doesn't mean it'd be a bad loss for us either given the circumstances. It looks/reads worse than it actually is.

How deep is this upcoming draft? If we picked up a player similar to Hrovat's ability, we'd have to be happy.

[westdog54]

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The first point I have read a number of times here, but to be honest I just don't see it. He's getting good numbers, even if from accounts he didn't play well on the weekend he sure wasn't alone.

The second point I'm interested to know how you know this.

Never said I knew, said we shouldn't make too much effort if he doesn't.

[ReLoad]

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Ill take a 2nd rounder, given where we will get our picks and also no Adelaide in the draft its equal to a high 1st rounder.

It pretty much all comes down to how much money he wants 9Which also impacts what we get draft pick wise) NO AFL club will offer him more than a 2 year deal, if they do they are mental.

[MrMahatma]

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Just play him in the midfield. Had a good last qtr against Melb.

Getting rid of him, and playing him out of position is throwing the baby out with the bath water. Of all the crap this club has done in the past decades, this sticks in my craw more than anything. He's a gun, and can still deliver. We'll have 2 decent players on our list next year at this rate.

What a joke.

[Hot_Doggies]

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First Lake, now Cooney. Our version of the 'no dickhead' policy?

Take a 2nd round pick and run.....

[Mantis]

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Take the money and run Adam.. Why would you want to stay?

[Ghost Dog]

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What sort of a club are we?

Come off it. We've moved heaven and earth to get Cooney right. Do you not think he's seemed a bit disinterested at times this season?

[bulldogtragic]

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From memory we have about $700,000 left in the cap. If Coonet goes, that increases to about $1,300,000.

If we have the trade bait, we could just about buy any player(s) in the AFL.

[Ghost Dog]

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That's rubbish. Did Ward and Harbrow leave because they were mistreated?

It's well known that he's a massive fan of the folding stuff and given he's not going to play in a premiership with us, why not go somewhere else that can pay him more and give him a shot at a flag. He's giving us very little on field; sure, point to the 26 touches per game but don't forget to include the missed tackles, non-chases and general ad body language.

But yes, let's go along with the idea that we're treating him like crap by asking him to play across the half back line rather than in the midfield. It's a shame that injuries ruined what should have been a HoF career but I think it's best for both parties if he leaves at the end of the year.

I'm glad we're moving on from being a Club that constantly panders to individuals.

Post of the day. Even in some cursory things like cub media interviews, one senses he's not that interested in hanging about. If he's happier elsewhere, hope he goes.
It's sad to lose a player, but one door closes, another opens.

[always right]

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The first point I have read a number of times here, but to be honest I just don't see it. He's getting good numbers, even if from accounts he didn't play well on the weekend he sure wasn't alone.

The second point I'm interested to know how you know this.

The captain also gets good numbers. It's kinda meaningless isn't it? Cooney's impact on games is becoming less and less. It's sad.

[Bornadog]

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Do you not think he's seemed a bit disinterested at times this season?

one senses he's not that interested in hanging about. If he's happier elsewhere, hope he goes.
It's sad to lose a player, but one door closes, another opens.

Why do you think he is disinterested? What is going on at the club?

[always right]

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Never said that at all, I just don't like losing good players when we don't have many at the club.

It's about timing isn't it? With several of our older players departing in the next year or so, we are not going to get better in a hurry. You could argue that this is a reason to hang onto Cooney but you could also argue that we need to load up on as many high end draft picks as possible during this period so they all come through together.

Personally I'll be sad to see Cooney depart if that's the outcome, however there is no way we should be paying him anymore than he is worth...and that may simply not be enough to keep him. It's not about "mistreating" anyone.....it's about being pragmatic. An early second round swap sounds good to me...the reality being he's current performance level probably justifies a third rounder.