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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11962

    #211
    Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

    Would membership not get you in? I wouldn't have assumed you'd need to pay for a ticket as well
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    • KT31
      WOOF Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 5455

      #212
      Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

      Originally posted by hujsh
      Would membership not get you in? I wouldn't have assumed you'd need to pay for a ticket as well
      Membership does not guarantee entree, a couple of years back a couple of mates could not get into one of our home games at Canberra using their memberships because of the ground restrictions.
      Fortunately for them a bloke came past and handed them a couple of gold passes to get in.
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      • Ghost Dog
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        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #213
        Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

        I went to our NAB game in Ballarat. the 'carpark' ( road outside the ground) went for miles. It was a huge day and we could easily get 6,000 people locally, add to that the numbers coming down on V-line to make for a good NRL-sized crowd of 10,000 - 15,000 people. It's so much fun watching AFL players close up at a regional ground.
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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          #214
          Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

          Originally posted by 1eyedog
          I reckon 2-3k Ballarat people would enjoy attending a neutral game of AFL footy.
          More, if you take in people coming from regional areas. Colac, Hamilton, Warrnabool, Geelong.
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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15547

            #215
            Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

            Originally posted by chef
            Wouldn't you buy a ticket before driving to Ballarat?
            Isn't that what my membership card is?

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            • chef
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 14748

              #216
              Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

              Originally posted by Mantis
              Isn't that what my membership card is?
              Membership doesn't always guarantee(see KT31's post above) as its not our average home game.

              Ground holds 11k we have 30k+ members, i wouldnt just rock up.

              Im sure a simple phone call to the club would be all thats needed to find out before the game.
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              • Webby
                WOOF Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 1880

                #217
                Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                Originally posted by bornadog
                I am agreeing, but when you said 23k I had never heard of the number being that high. Not saying it's not correct either.
                Here's the release from the AFL's own news source:


                It says up to 20k. So comments that 11k is a tad underwhelming are warranted, imo. 11k is almost certain to mean lockouts. I don't see that as good news. We pull 25k easily in Melbourne. I reckon 10k would travel and a few thousand locals (Ballarat and ~90min radius) would want to go.

                11k seems futile from the get go. I'd be happy to stand at Ballarat. In fact, it'd be a novelty! Surely some terracing would only cost a six figure sum
                To bring the capacity up to mid-high teens?!

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                • Bulldog4life
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 9607

                  #218
                  Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                  Originally posted by Webby
                  Here's the release from the AFL's own news source:


                  It says up to 20k. So comments that 11k is a tad underwhelming are warranted, imo. 11k is almost certain to mean lockouts. I don't see that as good news. We pull 25k easily in Melbourne. I reckon 10k would travel and a few thousand locals (Ballarat and ~90min radius) would want to go.

                  11k seems futile from the get go. I'd be happy to stand at Ballarat. In fact, it'd be a novelty! Surely some terracing would only cost a six figure sum
                  To bring the capacity up to mid-high teens?!
                  Thanks for the post Webby. Maybe PG who posts sometimes on our forum can answer a few questions on this thread.

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11605

                    #219
                    Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                    With the State Govt last night pledging huge funding on public transport improvements on the Melton/Ballarat line, it would not surprise to see further upgrades confirmed for Eureka Stadium in coming years. If it was capped at 11k it would be underwhelming.
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67705

                      #220
                      Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      With the State Govt last night pledging huge funding on public transport improvements on the Melton/Ballarat line, it would not surprise to see further upgrades confirmed for Eureka Stadium in coming years. If it was capped at 11k it would be underwhelming.
                      No way it would be capped at 11k if there is demand from the members and public. If no one goes to games, they won't spend more money.
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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 45577

                        #221
                        Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        No way it would be capped at 11k if there is demand from the members and public. If no one goes to games, they won't spend more money.
                        I just can't see how 11K is a viable venue for us. If what you are saying is correct they're essentially asking our supporters to travel up there and squeeze into a small venue for a couple of years then they may upgrade it to 15K etc etc
                        Wouldn't they be better to build something that we could grow into not out of in the first season or two?

                        I'd probably make the trip for the first game but if it's a half complete stadium then I would imagine many wouldn't be bothered.
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                        • Bornadog
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                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67705

                          #222
                          Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          I just can't see how 11K is a viable venue for us. If what you are saying is correct they're essentially asking our supporters to travel up there and squeeze into a small venue for a couple of years then they may upgrade it to 15K etc etc
                          Wouldn't they be better to build something that we could grow into not out of in the first season or two?

                          I'd probably make the trip for the first game but if it's a half complete stadium then I would imagine many wouldn't be bothered.
                          11k seems very small if you combine Ballarat attendees plus Melbourne. I hope supporters will go up there and we do pack it out.

                          Pretty sure we are only playing one game next year and then two the following year.
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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27682

                            #223
                            Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I just can't see how 11K is a viable venue for us. If what you are saying is correct they're essentially asking our supporters to travel up there and squeeze into a small venue for a couple of years then they may upgrade it to 15K etc etc
                            Wouldn't they be better to build something that we could grow into not out of in the first season or two?

                            I'd probably make the trip for the first game but if it's a half complete stadium then I would imagine many wouldn't be bothered.
                            It's looking at it the wrong way around. It doesn't makes any sense building a stadium that size for AFL football. Anyway I'm sure the AFL has minimum requirements for ground capacity. The 11k might the first stage of construction capacity maybe?
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • Webby
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 1880

                              #224
                              Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                              There's an article on p53 of today's Hun which quotes PG as saying our preference is for Port or Adelaide for the Ballarat game next year.

                              With an extremely modest 11k capacity, why would we want 4-6k South Australians driving over? Surely GC or GWS would be the way to go?

                              I could understand if you had a 25k stadium, you'd push hard for the SA clubs, but with 11k it will surely just exacerbate the capacity issue?!

                              Perhaps there is an option to put in some Grand Prix style temporary seating or something... So as to say, "Hey Andrews, get another grandstand built ASAP!"

                              It'd just be nice for them to have gone with 20k from the get go. That's all.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 45577

                                #225
                                Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                                Agree Webby that GWS or GC make more sense. While it should be great for Ballarat to have a venue like that currently from what I'm reading it won't be quite what we need. I hope it's not a case of us having to prove we can fill it before they build something bigger.
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