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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67701

    #226
    Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    Agree Webby that GWS or GC make more sense. While it should be great for Ballarat to have a venue like that currently from what I'm reading it won't be quite what we need. I hope it's not a case of us having to prove we can fill it before they build something bigger.
    Also if there are only one or two games per year, why spend say 60 million (instead of the current 30) just for those few games.
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 45570

      #227
      Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Also if there are only one or two games per year, why spend say 60 million (instead of the current 30) just for those few games.
      I think the point I'm making is that I don't see the sense of building something we will grow out of in season one. Whatever way we dress this up a venue that asks people to commute from Melbourne to just isn't viable for us if it only holds 11,000 people.

      I don't believe it would cost another 30m to turn this into a 18k stadium in fact to just enclose the ground without a lot of seating would probably be less than another 10m.

      I just don't see why they are planning to 3 quarter complete the stadium
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      • Ozza
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Mar 2008
        • 6402

        #228
        Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        I think the point I'm making is that I don't see the sense of building something we will grow out of in season one. Whatever way we dress this up a venue that asks people to commute from Melbourne to just isn't viable for us if it only holds 11,000 people.

        I don't believe it would cost another 30m to turn this into a 18k stadium in fact to just enclose the ground without a lot of seating would probably be less than another 10m.

        I just don't see why they are planning to 3 quarter complete the stadium
        Only just saw this. 11,000 capacity! Quite ridiculous.

        I thought this initiative was going to be a good thing. Its now starting to sound and smell bad.

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        • Bulldog4life
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 9607

          #229
          Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

          Originally posted by Ozza
          Only just saw this. 11,000 capacity! Quite ridiculous.

          I thought this initiative was going to be a good thing. Its now starting to sound and smell bad.
          This is only the first phase of the re-development. Not sure how many phases there will be but I'm sure there will be more than one..

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          • Bulldog4life
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 9607

            #230
            Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

            The Ballarat City Council is currently studying the stages two and three of development of the stadium precinct in accordance with the Ballarat Major Events Precinct Master Plan, although these stages are not yet funded.[4] Stages two and three are planned to include the construction of two more grandstands as well as ongoing development of surrounding infrastructure. When completed the stadium will seat approximately 13000-15000 spectators.

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13387

              #231
              Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

              The Ballarat Bulldogs? Well at least it's still in the west!
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45570

                #232
                Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                I read that Peter Gordon is very confident we will play one game there in 2017 with an outside chance of 2. You would have to suspect that it would be 2 games a year from 2018.

                Perhaps the devil is in the detail but a stadium of just 11K seems way too small for us now.
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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15483

                  #233
                  Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                  If the stadium only holds 11,000 you would assume that it would be filled with bulldog diehards. I thought the purpose of Ballarat was to try and get locals / neutrals in as supporters and members, but if there is not tickets available to actually go to the game how are we meant to draw them in?
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 45570

                    #234
                    Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                    Originally posted by azabob
                    If the stadium only holds 11,000 you would assume that it would be filled with bulldog diehards. I thought the purpose of Ballarat was to try and get locals / neutrals in as supporters and members, but if there is not tickets available to actually go to the game how are we meant to draw them in?
                    I don't think that will change but it will likely mean less tickets being available for current members.
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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #235
                      Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                      Forgive my complete ignorance on this issue. How do we make lots of money playing 2 home games to a Spotless Stadium type crowd in regional Victoria while our members stay home?
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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 18103

                        #236
                        Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                        There seems to be some confusion over this, but my understanding is that the 11,000 capacity is for the first stage of development to be completed in time for 2017.

                        As more stages are completed over the coming years, the capacity will increase. It really needs to get to hold 15,000-20,000 to include Bulldogs members and some local neutrals.
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                        • comrade
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 18103

                          #237
                          Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Forgive my complete ignorance on this issue. How do we make lots of money playing 2 home games to a Spotless Stadium type crowd in regional Victoria while our members stay home?
                          I'm assuming Ballarat Council/State Government coughs up some dough.
                          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #238
                            Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            I'm assuming Ballarat Council/State Government coughs up some dough.
                            To the venue they are. But also to us?

                            And what of replacement games for members if we can't get in?
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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 45570

                              #239
                              Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                              Originally posted by comrade
                              There seems to be some confusion over this, but my understanding is that the 11,000 capacity is for the first stage of development to be completed in time for 2017.

                              As more stages are completed over the coming years, the capacity will increase. It really needs to get to hold 15,000-20,000 to include Bulldogs members and some local neutrals.
                              11K next year I think is the issue and it might be 2 game sin 2018 in a stadium that holds less than 14K.
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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #240
                                Re: Labor promise Western Bulldogs will play two games in Ballarat every season

                                Had dinner there on the weekend, they would want to get a move on and start building the grandstand. Ground looks great but still a heap of work to be started/done!

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