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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44676

    2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

    Now that the trade period has been completed and the draft order known, I've knocked up a rough draft order and then looked at who might be available around our picks. These aren't necessarily the players I would pick but might be a bit of a form guide for those interested in the upcoming draft. I look forward to some feedback and some other options being listed.

    Picks 20 and 21
    Strategy: The aim here would be to pick up two quality players but ideally we need to go with at least one tall.
    Potential Sliders: Ryan Burton, Harry McKay, Riley Bonner, Daniel Rioli, Darcy Tucker*
    In the mix: Michael Hibberd, Clayton Oliver, Kieran Collins, Ben McKay
    Likely Picks: Clayton Oliver and Ben McKay

    Clayton Oliver
    Height: 187cm
    Weight: 85.7kg
    Combine Highlight: Agility test 8.11 which was in the top 3% of the players tested
    Strengths: Good mark for his size, quicker than people expect, quick hands, tackles well, strong mark for his size and can kick a goal
    Weakness: Skill level can vary particularly his kicking, stamina and he needs to trim down a bit.

    Summary:
    Oliver would provide us with a creative and strong midfielder who is capable of playing as a forward. He had a strong finish to the season winning the Morrish Medal. He also averaged 15 disposals in two matches for Richmond's VFL team. His TAC highlights include a 27 touch performance and a game where he kicked 6 goals.

    Ben McKay
    Height: 198.9cm
    Weight: 95.3kg
    Combine Highlight: 5mtr sprint 1.07 which was in the top 30% of the players tested
    Strengths: Great scope for further improvement, strong mark, versatile.
    Weakness: Lacks confidence, he's not a great athlete and would be regarded as a long term investment.

    Summary:
    McKay might be the lesser known twin but possibly fits us better as a potential key defender/forward who's more than capable of taking a turn in the ruck. He dropped out of the Gippsland Power programme during the season before returning and performing well.
    He will still be just 17 years old when the draft is completed. TAC highlight includes a game where he had 16 disposals and seven marks with five of those marks contested.


    Pick 30
    Strategy: It's tempting to draft for needs here and go with Mitch Brown but best available probably wins.
    In the mix: Aidyn Johnson, Mitch Brown, Brayden Fiorini*, Mason Redman, Josh Dunkley, Tom Cole
    Likely Pick: Aidyn Johnson

    Aidyn Johnson
    Height: 183.9cm
    Weight: 75.0kg
    Combine Highlight: Agility test 8.15 which was top 4%. Repeat Sprint 24.83 which was top 20%.
    Strengths: Highly athletic with a great blend of speed and endurance, kicking skills, work rate and an exciting player to watch.
    Weakness: Very outside player, quad injury curtailed his season, defensive ethic and not overly versatile.

    Summary:
    A half forward or winger, Johnson might be one of the more exciting players in this years draft although because he didn't play much due to injury so clubs would be assessing him on his form and attitude displayed during his time as a member of the NAB AFL Academy.
    His injury occurred during and NAB AFL Academy game on the MCG against the Northern Blues where he tore his central tendon in his right quad. Johnson is an exciting player to watch and I think it would be hard to pass on him if he was available.


    Pick 51
    Strategy: It becomes a bit of a lottery here, but we must address our lack of key position players
    In the mix: Mitch Brown, Michael Hartley, Nick Coughlan, Sam Collins, Darcy MacPherson, Pat Levicki, Reuben William*
    Likely Pick: Mitch Brown

    Mitchell Brown
    Height: 196.0cm
    Weight: 93.0kg
    Strengths: Versatile player capable of playing forward and back. He's been in the system for a number of years and would bring considerable experience. He has improved his marking and confidence since his shoulder surgery
    Weakness: Shoulder injuries, he hasn't played at the top level for 2 years. Durability.

    Summary:
    In a team desperately needing to add some depth in the key positions, Mitch Brown could be a solid late order selection that could come in straight away if required.
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  • lemmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2008
    • 6522

    #2
    Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

    Thanks for that GVG, I've read elsewhere you have a few concerns about the foot skills and attacking game of Collins, if he or one of the McKay brothers were available at 20, which way would you be leaning? Collins seems to be a pretty sure thing of making it as a solid key back whereas the brothers probably have a greater ceiling, versatility and ability to take ruck minutes.

    I like the Oliver selection also, we looked light on for inside mids this year and Smith will have his question marks. Oliver looks like he'd step right in and provide some class.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #3
      Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

      I seem to recall MJP loving Ah Chee. What area of the draft is he expected to end up?
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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44676

        #4
        Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

        Originally posted by lemmon
        Thanks for that GVG, I've read elsewhere you have a few concerns about the foot skills and attacking game of Collins, if he or one of the McKay brothers were available at 20, which way would you be leaning? Collins seems to be a pretty sure thing of making it as a solid key back whereas the brothers probably have a greater ceiling, versatility and ability to take ruck minutes.

        I like the Oliver selection also, we looked light on for inside mids this year and Smith will have his question marks. Oliver looks like he'd step right in and provide some class.
        I wouldn't mind having a look at Collins at one of those picks. He is very strong and he is up for the challenge because he is so focused on making it as a AFL player. He measured in at 193.8cm and 99.6kg so he is a massive unit for a 17 year old. He got a 14.2 on the beep test which is also impressive for his size. Seems to be a more one-on-one type defender than someone who takes the game on but that might just be the way he has been trained so far. It would be line ball for me in comparison with Ben McKay. McKay is more versatile. It might come down to their footy IQ and I'm not sure I can guess on that.

        Oliver had a strong season although he didn't play for Vic Country. I thought he finished the season off so well so if he is available at our first picks he should be considered.

        I also like Darcy Tucker, who has spent time at the club so we would have seen a bit of him and being that he has played for Ballarat there is some links there that the club might be able to use in marketing. Good steady player and a bubbly youngster. He has lived away from home for the last two years so would transition easily into the AFL. 15.3 beep test and in the top 25% in the repeat sprints. Good balance of speed, endurance and athleticism plus he has a reliable kick.
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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44676

          #5
          Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          I seem to recall MJP loving Ah Chee. What area of the draft is he expected to end up?
          I had him going by pick 16 so I didn't include him.
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          • Bulldog Joe
            Premiership Moderator
            • Jul 2009
            • 5575

            #6
            Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

            You state that McKay at 199cm is not a great athlete.

            With a 5m sprint in the top 30% I would see that there is some athletic base to work with.

            I would be interested in knowing where his athletic deficiences are.
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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44676

              #7
              Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
              You state that McKay at 198cm is not a great athlete.

              With a 5m sprint in the top 30% I would see that there is some athletic base to work with.

              I would be interested in knowing where his athletic deficiences are.
              It's probably more around his spring with his vertical jumps as he rated poorly there plus his agility test and shuttle run needs some work. The sprint times surprised me.
              As a comparison when compared to Collins (who weighs heavier than McKay) , McKay was quicker over 5 and 10mtrs, a fraction slower over 20mtrs. Collins had him covered easily in agility and the beep test.

              Ben McKay is very young and had a interrupted season so once he gets into the AFL I think he has significant scope for improvement.
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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15322

                #8
                Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

                Firstly does the * represent anything in particular?

                Thank you for putting that together.

                Traditionally our club in the last few drafts has gone best available talent.

                Because we have picks 20 & 21 we could perhaps go pick 20 Best Available and then pick 21 stretch a little bit for a key position player, that perhaps would go between picks 22 and 35?

                Or is the general feeling our list still needs work and we need to continually inject talent regardless of the type of player?

                GVGjr, you made a comment that you wouldn't necessarily select the players you did, who would you select and why?
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44676

                  #9
                  Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  Firstly does the * represent anything in particular?

                  Thank you for putting that together.

                  Traditionally our club in the last few drafts has gone best available talent.

                  Because we have picks 20 & 21 we could perhaps go pick 20 Best Available and then pick 21 stretch a little bit for a key position player, that perhaps would go between picks 22 and 35?

                  Or is the general feeling our list still needs work and we need to continually inject talent regardless of the type of player?

                  GVGjr, you made a comment that you wouldn't necessarily select the players you did, who would you select and why?
                  The * is the player I would consider at that pick and I will expand on that a bit later. I just wanted to give people some food for thought on what players might be around the mark of our selections. It obviously won't look that way at draft day.

                  I was hoping it might kick start some others posting their likely selections.
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                  • Bulldog Joe
                    Premiership Moderator
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5575

                    #10
                    Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    It's probably more around his spring with his vertical jumps as he rated poorly there plus his agility test and shuttle run needs some work. The sprint times surprised me.
                    As a comparison when compared to Collins (who weighs heavier than McKay) , McKay was quicker over 5 and 10mtrs, a fraction slower over 20mtrs. Collins had him covered easily in agility and the beep test.

                    Ben McKay is very young and had a interrupted season so once he gets into the AFL I think he has significant scope for improvement.
                    On that basis and with some personal knowledge of athletics, I would check how his twin brother went in the other tests as well.

                    It may be more a case of the effects of his interrupted season. He does sound like someone on the quick improvement that Dalrymple has shown a liking for.

                    If he has the scope to improve on the agility and stamina areas he could be a real find.
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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #11
                      Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

                      Thanks for all this effort G. The above factors in Darcy Mc falling to the rookie draft. That would have him at Footscray for the year which is a good thing, and with Roarke on the RL. So we've two spots. If we take a Brown type at pick 51 and we select along the types above, what are the two types of players to rookie? Please say a ruckman...
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                      • stefoid
                        Senior Player
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1846

                        #12
                        Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

                        An even spread of players to choose from, and particularly with trading down for two consecutive picks indicates to me we will take a shot at needs based drafting with at least one pick, and B.McKay fits that bill perfectly. Also, if we are going for needs then smaller players with a bit of toe wouldnt go astray, either.

                        I heard something about hawthorns recruiter said Collins was the 3rd best player the draft? If thats remotely true, we can cross him off the list at 20, and we can also assume that we were never into him at 11, or we wouldnt have traded down.

                        Oliver looks like a likely type to me - great composure under pressure which is much more valuable than pure skill. Would be competing with Jong for a spot as soon as he was fit enough, you would think.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44676

                          #13
                          Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

                          Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                          On that basis and with some personal knowledge of athletics, I would check how his twin brother went in the other tests as well.

                          It may be more a case of the effects of his interrupted season. He does sound like someone on the quick improvement that Dalrymple has shown a liking for.

                          If he has the scope to improve on the agility and stamina areas he could be a real find.
                          I've done that.
                          Harry and Ben tested around the same for the vertical jumps, Ben was a lot quicker in the 5 and 10mtr sprints and the brothers recorded equal times in the 20mtr. Harry slightly better in the agility test and ran a 14.2 beep compared to Ben's 13.2 which goes a long way towards what you are saying. Harry was again a bit better in the repeat sprints.
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                          • stefoid
                            Senior Player
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1846

                            #14
                            Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1



                            thoughts on Gach?

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44676

                              #15
                              Re: 2015 Draft Form Guide - Mock Draft #1

                              Originally posted by stefoid
                              Where would you take him in the draft? At pick 30 or 51?
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