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  • Eastdog
    WOOF Communtiy Organiser
    • Feb 2012
    • 18292

    The Academy System

    After seeing tonight first hand this system what do you guys think of it.
    "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"
  • whythelongface
    Coaching Staff
    • Jan 2007
    • 4490

    #2
    Re: The Academy System

    I'm confused to be honest.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #3
      Re: The Academy System

      Ball of Confusion for me.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: The Academy System

        I like it. The Academy clubs are getting a real advantage, but they do also have substantial developmental responsibilities.

        Ultimately, I'd like to see all clubs allocated zones/academies and draft night being an egalitarian bidding/trading process.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44653

          #5
          Re: The Academy System

          Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
          I like it. The Academy clubs are getting a real advantage, but they do also have substantial developmental responsibilities.

          Ultimately, I'd like to see all clubs allocated zones/academies and draft night being an egalitarian bidding/trading process.
          I hate what it does to the trade period and I don't think it adds much value to the draft night.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • F'scary
            WOOF Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 4089

            #6
            Re: The Academy System

            Were there any signs of the colluding the AFL was concerned about?

            We obviously didn't play the academy ball with our first pick and apparently sent the AFL into a tail spin that halted proceedings for several minutes - I would like to hear more on the incident. Were we spoiling the night by forcing Brisbane to pay more and by not letting young Dunkley slip to where the Swans get him super cheap?
            Officially on the Bus-wagon

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            • boydogs
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 5844

              #7
              Re: The Academy System

              Originally posted by F'scary
              Were there any signs of the colluding the AFL was concerned about?
              Well, we gave Sydney Talia on the cheap and they didn't match the bid for Dunkley
              If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

              Formerly gogriff

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              • soupman
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2007
                • 5113

                #8
                Re: The Academy System

                I actually like the new system but the 20% discount made it look farcical last night. Clubs had to giuve up say picks 36 and 37 for 13 and 46, which is a bit of a joke. Maybe make the 20% discount a little less, even just 10%. Still gives them a discount and access to a quality kid that they have developed below market value, but not for a pittance.
                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                • F'scary
                  WOOF Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 4089

                  #9
                  Re: The Academy System

                  Originally posted by boydogs
                  Well, we gave Sydney Talia on the cheap and they didn't match the bid for Dunkley
                  If that's the case, hooray! that we drove a truck through the AFL's flimsy rules.
                  Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66738

                    #10
                    Re: The Academy System

                    Hawks primed to land multicultural forward


                    EXCITING forward Changkuoth Jiath leads a group of 11 draft prospects eligible to join clubs as Next Generation Academy players this year.


                    Jiath, who plays for the Gippsland Power in the TAC Cup and for Xavier College at school level in Melbourne, can join Hawthorn under the AFL's rules to boost the numbers of multicultural and indigenous talent in League ranks.


                    The lightly framed Jiath has impressed at stages this season across half-forward with his pace and endurance, and creative streak. He will be subject to the same bidding process as father-son and northern academy players if a rival club places a bid on him during the national NAB AFL Draft later this year in Sydney.


                    However, clubs were able to select the NGA eligible players automatically as category B rookies last year if they were overlooked as both rookies and for senior list positions.


                    Jiath is one of four NGA players who have been approved as eligible for the Hawks this year, including ruckman Tony Olango, who was overlooked last year.


                    The list is a rolling group, with more names set to be added as the year goes on and more players are identified by clubs. An AFL committee rules on each prospect's eligibility before the group is officially updated.


                    The Hawks, Carlton and Richmond appear to have the most prominent NGA zones so far, with the Tigers having three players qualifying for this year's draft.


                    The group of 42 names approved by the AFL includes prospects who will be eligible to join clubs as far away as the 2023 draft.


                    Next year could see the first top-end player taken under NGA rules, with North Melbourne having access to Tarryn Trindall (Thomas) via its Tasmanian zone. He is a member of the NAB AFL Academy and has already excited recruiters over the past 18 months.


                    The Hawks could also benefit again in two years with talented under-16 player Todd Garner in the club's NGA academy. He is the younger brother of highly touted Joel Garner, a sweeping left-footer who is in the frame to be a first-round pick this season.


                    NEXT GENERATION ACADEMY – ELIGIBLE PLAYERS


                    WESTERN BULLDOGS
                    Buku Khamis (2018), St Albans, Multicultural

                    other teams here
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                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66738

                      #11
                      Re: The Academy System

                      Anyone wondering who Buku Khamis is, here and here some details.





                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27655

                        #12
                        Re: The Academy System

                        I see a lot of African guys, and women, in Footscray that look to have perfect proportions to play AFL. About 191 cms (that's 6 foot 3 inches I think) and really powerful. I can only assume that a generation of their kids are waiting at home to dominate the AFL some time in the next 10 years.


                        Bring it on. As a sport we need as many quality athletes playing our sport as we can get. If the African kids around the Western suburbs throw their lot in with footy it will give us a huge pool of potential players.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11183

                          #13
                          Re: The Academy System

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          The Hawks could also benefit again in two years with talented under-16 player Todd Garner in the club's NGA academy. He is the younger brother of highly touted Joel Garner, a sweeping left-footer who is in the frame to be a first-round pick this season.
                          Are their parents big West Indian cricket fans?

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #14
                            Re: The Academy System

                            Any idea on Buku's height?

                            I like the bidding process, good to get a small advantage if it means other clubs aren't plundering top end talent.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66738

                              #15
                              Re: The Academy System

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Any idea on Buku's height?

                              I like the bidding process, good to get a small advantage if it means other clubs aren't plundering top end talent.
                              On Western Jets web page, he is listed as 188cm - I expect he will grow some more.

                              Here is another recent story.
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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