The Academy System

[GVGjr]

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Stevo ? Our channel 7 beanie wearing reporter ?

Just to be clear our Stevo is definitely not Mark Stevens

[ledge]

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Just to be clear our Stevo is definitely not Mark Stevens

I rekon Mark is around here somewhere though at times.

[GVGjr]

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I rekon Mark is around here somewhere though at times.

I think (know) there were a number of the media here regularly years ago but our Stevo isn't the CH7 Stevo.

[Stevo]

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Stevo ? Our channel 7 beanie wearing reporter ?

Just to be clear our Stevo is definitely not Mark Stevens

I have the same initials and I'm bulldogs through and through but as Gazza mentioned I'm not that Stevo

[Eastdog]

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After seeing tonight first hand this system what do you guys think of it.

It’s worked out so well

[comrade]

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It’s worked out so well

A beautiful, beautiful rort.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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A beautiful, beautiful rort.

We're usually on the receiving end of AFL rulings, 2016 pre finals bye notwithstanding. I'll take it, and hope we get to make 17 clubs rue our good fortune landing Jamarra with via the NGA provisions for the next decade.

[Mofra]

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They can scrap it now for all I care

[Bulldog Revolution]

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We were well overdue

No compensation for losing Tony McGuinness and Kym Koster

And then we finish second last to Fitzroy in 1996 and get the 10th pick in the draft - N.Brown

Comparatively we got screwed in the Harbrow compensation also

Overdue I tell you!

[Twodogs]

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We were well overdue

No compensation for losing Tony McGuinness and Kym Koster

And then we finish second last to Fitzroy in 1996 and get the 10th pick in the draft - N.Brown

Comparatively we got screwed in the Harbrow compensation also

Overdue I tell you!

Or Murray Rance.

[Axe Man]

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We were well overdue

No compensation for losing Tony McGuinness and Kym Koster

And then we finish second last to Fitzroy in 1996 and get the 10th pick in the draft - N.Brown

Comparatively we got screwed in the Harbrow compensation also

Overdue I tell you!

Thank goodness we were shuffled down to pick 10 with all the Port Adelaide compo picks - the rest of the top 10 were pretty much duds apart from Michael Gardner.

[macca]

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We were well overdue

No compensation for losing Tony McGuinness and Kym Koster

And then we finish second last to Fitzroy in 1996 and get the 10th pick in the draft - N.Brown

Comparatively we got screwed in the Harbrow compensation also

Overdue I tell you!

I just checked Harbrow games : 258
70 WB
188 GC

That’s elite in terms of game numbers
We should have gotten a first round pick for him

[mjp]

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A beautiful, beautiful rort.

So.

I just want to make a counter point on the Academy system.

There has been lots of talk on here and in the media about how our club simply 'got lucky' with JUH. I'm not sure I agree with this.

1/. He 100% has come from an environment that does NOT produce AFL footballers. The academy system, the promise/commitments made by the club AND the time spent with the lad have absolutely contributed to his development.

2/. Given that we don't exactly have enough players to fill 18x teams right now, EVERYTHING we (the game) does to add more potential athletes to the pool should be seen as a GOOD thing. The academy system is a GOOD thing.

3/. If there is any reduction in the time spent by each club on their 'region' due to the policy change, well...that's BAD.

I have turned my opinion around on this. I really did think it was a joke that the entire state of WA was being split between 2x clubs, but how many kids from the North West of WA ever (EVER) make it? Geraldton is 400kms north of Perth...who from the 3000kms north of there has ever got there? Joel Hamling (Broome). Jack Martin (Broome). Anyone else??? Anything that can be done to increase the hit rate and bring more talented athletes into the pathway should be seen as a good thing. I was wrong. The AFL is wrong. The academy system should be protected and players like JUH from non-traditional (from an AFL perspective) pathways should be encouraged to find a way to participate.

The AFL itself is not set up to support the regions which is why they handballed it to the clubs...now the clubs have been discouraged from fully committing...I think that's bad. Very (very) bad.

[Twodogs]

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So.

I just want to make a counter point on the Academy system.

There has been lots of talk on here and in the media about how our club simply 'got lucky' with JUH. I'm not sure I agree with this.

1/. He 100% has come from an environment that does NOT produce AFL footballers. The academy system, the promise/commitments made by the club AND the time spent with the lad have absolutely contributed to his development.

2/. Given that we don't exactly have enough players to fill 18x teams right now, EVERYTHING we (the game) does to add more potential athletes to the pool should be seen as a GOOD thing. The academy system is a GOOD thing.

3/. If there is any reduction in the time spent by each club on their 'region' due to the policy change, well...that's BAD.

I have turned my opinion around on this. I really did think it was a joke that the entire state of WA was being split between 2x clubs, but how many kids from the North West of WA ever (EVER) make it? Geraldton is 400kms north of Perth...who from the 3000kms north of there has ever got there? Joel Hamling (Broome). Jack Martin (Broome). Anyone else??? Anything that can be done to increase the hit rate and bring more talented athletes into the pathway should be seen as a good thing. I was wrong. The AFL is wrong. The academy system should be protected and players like JUH from non-traditional (from an AFL perspective) pathways should be encouraged to find a way to participate.

The AFL itself is not set up to support the regions which is why they handballed it to the clubs...now the clubs have been discouraged from fully committing...I think that's bad. Very (very) bad.

Kim Hughes?

[comrade]

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So.

I just want to make a counter point on the Academy system.

There has been lots of talk on here and in the media about how our club simply 'got lucky' with JUH. I'm not sure I agree with this.

1/. He 100% has come from an environment that does NOT produce AFL footballers. The academy system, the promise/commitments made by the club AND the time spent with the lad have absolutely contributed to his development.

2/. Given that we don't exactly have enough players to fill 18x teams right now, EVERYTHING we (the game) does to add more potential athletes to the pool should be seen as a GOOD thing. The academy system is a GOOD thing.

3/. If there is any reduction in the time spent by each club on their 'region' due to the policy change, well...that's BAD.

I have turned my opinion around on this. I really did think it was a joke that the entire state of WA was being split between 2x clubs, but how many kids from the North West of WA ever (EVER) make it? Geraldton is 400kms north of Perth...who from the 3000kms north of there has ever got there? Joel Hamling (Broome). Jack Martin (Broome). Anyone else??? Anything that can be done to increase the hit rate and bring more talented athletes into the pathway should be seen as a good thing. I was wrong. The AFL is wrong. The academy system should be protected and players like JUH from non-traditional (from an AFL perspective) pathways should be encouraged to find a way to participate.

The AFL itself is not set up to support the regions which is why they handballed it to the clubs...now the clubs have been discouraged from fully committing...I think that's bad. Very (very) bad.

The rort is more in relation to us using later picks (for list spots we didn't even have) to secure JUH. I agree that kids from marginalised backgrounds need extra support and resources, but also believe a balance needs to be found otherwise Freo and WC will have an endless pipeline of talented kids and other clubs will have none.

One solution might be taking away any discount for a top 20 bid.

If you want the kid and he's rated highly, you cough up and get pushed back in the queue (or trade future picks to get back into the draft).