Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

[Sedat]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Campbell had 72 hitouts, does he come in?

Gawn will blow him up in 30 minutes. Then again he'll do the same to Roughy or Boydy.

[HOSE B ROMERO]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

God awful weekend - absolutely it has been for our club
Looked a good side on paper - I was thinking that as well but it didn't get us the win

I know.... what if we put out a shocking side on paper?? Maybe then we could get a win??

[GVGjr]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Campbell had 72 hitouts, does he come in?

I'm not sure, perhaps it's a gamble we need to make but would Bevo head in another direction and try and see if Boyd, Schache and Trengove could at least run him around a bit? Maybe it's some left field thinking that's required.

[Twodogs]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

If they are nice enough to talk to a stranger the last thing I'm going to do is criticise them.
I'm sure that stuff is bought up in meetings, personally I rather talk to them about outside of the game , they get enough of footy talk I imagine.
Great thing about VFL games is they are so easy to get to know, standing around with all us lemmings you just go up and have a chat
Billy still lives with his dad/family, Andy who is now in the finance game and he relaxes with golf as a past time.
The main thing I got out of reading between the lines is he loves the club compared to previous clubs.
Very good club and team.
So all this rubbish that journos come out with is just that.
Also to be noted is Mitch Wallis didn't play as he has tendon problems in his little finger, they didn't want to risk it at the time of picking the team but obviously came up better to play VFL ( with which he played well).
English had a moon boot on, I didn't see Bevo or libber at the game this time.

I sat talking to a bloke at a Footscray practice match a few years ago for ages. We were talking about movies and music and British sitcoms and all sorts of crap for 45 minutes and then he wanders off. My mate said to me "oh that's Biggsy the new guy from Sydney did he say how he found things at the club?"

"didn't mention footy at all mate. Knows a bit about Fawlty Towers though (might not have been FT)

"great that's going to help us to a premiership"

[Ozza]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

I went on Saturday. Pretty frustrating watch.

Wallis played as you'd expect him to at that level - won every 50/50 contest he was in. Played as much half forward as on ball.
Webb - plays as he always does at that level. Really well.
Dunkley - couldn't seem to get involved as much as you'd hope. Shouldn't be coming off the ground as much as he was. The 5 on the interchange thing becomes a problem when you've got plenty of AFL listed players in the side - and guys like Adams, Morris, Young, Roberts & Campbell pretty much playing 100%.

Adams - terrible. Looks a million miles off being ready for AFL level.
Morris - doesn't look ready to go back into the AFL side yet.
Lewis Young - pretty good in the air. But makes giant mistakes with the ball at the wrong time.
Jong - no impact on the game.
Biggs - solid without starring.

That Reuben William kid has some attributes. Love to see him play a bit more selfish when he can take off and run and carry. A few times he handball off when he had some momentum - I was thinking 'don't hand it off, these blokes can't kick - go yourself!'.

Much like our senior side - there is a severe lack of forward craft. Roberts kicked 2 goals late - but we kicked to him a dozen times and his forward play was awful with him getting outmarked after losing position while the ball was in the air.

We did a good job of switching the ball to the dead side of the ground when behind in the last quarter, and extinguishing any chance of moving it from end to end. Morris and Adams were amongst the culprits.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Sounds like the AFL side. One could mount a case that's how the men are being coached to play if 40 players over the weekend played the same way.

Thanks Ozza.

[Ozza]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Sounds like the AFL side. One could mount a case that's how the men are being coached to play if 40 players over the weekend played the same way.

Thanks Ozza.

Absolutely that we played the same way.

4 things stood out in both games.

1. Ball movement - Really struggled to make quick enough and direct enough connections to put the opposition under pressure. Most of the time, we either go so slow or we make errors that give the opposition time to set themselves up behind the ball. And if you are going to switch the ball in D50 - it should be a big switch, not via 2 or 3 25 metre kicks.

2. Contested ball - seemed to lose it badly in both games. Certainly in the last quarter of the VFL we did - as well as across the night in the AFL. I fear how we will look v Melbourne's physicality next week.

3. Spread - Both games, we couldn't go with Collingwood on the spread. They would transition out of defence, and spread to the weak side in waves and we would be trailing them by 10-15 metres and have less numbers.

4. Keeping the ball inside our Forward 50 - just came out too easily with no pressure. For the second week in a row - the effort wasn't there in defensive running and urgency to keep control of the set up of the ground.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Well, your posts could equally be in the coaching pressure thread. Either the coaching is very poor in terms of tactics, or the coaching is poor by having tactics that we don't have the players (skill and/or mental application) to execute same.

[Bornadog]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Lukas Webb	31 disposals, 17 kicks, five tackles
Mitch Honeychurch	2 goals, 16 disposals, two tackles
Tom Campbell	72 hitouts, 13 disposals, eight tackles
Josh Dunkley	22 disposals, five tackles, three inside-50s
Fletcher Roberts	Two goals, 10 disposals, seven kicks
Lewis Young	26 disposals, 13 marks, nine handballs
Lin Jong	15 disposals, two tackles, two inside-50s
Fergus Greene	One goal, six tackles, ten disposals
Marcus Adams	11 disposals, six kicks, five handballs
Dale Morris	10 disposals, seven marks, five handballs
Cal Porter	Nine disposals, two tackles, two inside-50s
Shane Biggs	19 disposals, two tackles, five marks
Nathan Mullenger-McHugh	11 disposals, five marks, two tackles

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Lukas Webb	31 disposals, 17 kicks, five tackles
Mitch Honeychurch	2 goals, 16 disposals, two tackles
Tom Campbell	72 hitouts, 13 disposals, eight tackles
Josh Dunkley	22 disposals, five tackles, three inside-50s
Fletcher Roberts	Two goals, 10 disposals, seven kicks
Lewis Young	26 disposals, 13 marks, nine handballs
Lin Jong	15 disposals, two tackles, two inside-50s
Fergus Greene	One goal, six tackles, ten disposals
Marcus Adams	11 disposals, six kicks, five handballs
Dale Morris	10 disposals, seven marks, five handballs
Cal Porter	Nine disposals, two tackles, two inside-50s
Shane Biggs	19 disposals, two tackles, five marks
Nathan Mullenger-McH	ugh 11 disposals, five marks, two tackles

Those stats are a fair bit different to the ones quoted earlier in this thread. Young got reall good numbers again.

[Bornadog]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Those stats are a fair bit different to the ones quoted earlier in this thread. Young got reall good numbers again.

Yeah, I don't understand why they have been republished, must have been some errors.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Webb is elite at VFL level, I wish he could make the jump to the next level. Great kid, would love to see him make it.

[Twodogs]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Webb is elite at VFL level, I wish he could make the jump to the next level. Great kid, would love to see him make it.

Do you think he will ever adjust to the tempo? I'm genuinely unsure because we keep having cunning plans for where to deploy him, we play him in that position for a while at Footscray, he gets promoted to AFL, he plays in a completely different position and gets dropped again.

He looks a little slow at AFL level but we haven't given him a decent run to adjust to the tempo. I'd like to see him have a few weeks of uninterrupted footy at AFL level.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Do you think he will ever adjust to the tempo? I'm genuinely unsure because we keep having cunning plans for where to deploy him, we play him in that position for a while at Footscray, he gets promoted to AFL, he plays in a completely different position and gets dropped again.

He looks a little slow at AFL level but we haven't given him a decent run to adjust to the tempo. I'd like to see him have a few weeks of uninterrupted footy at AFL level.

I have my doubts but like you said a few weeks with the same job may give us a better guide.

[josie]

Re: Round 8 2018 Footscray Bulldogs v Collingwood

Do you think he will ever adjust to the tempo? I'm genuinely unsure because we keep having cunning plans for where to deploy him, we play him in that position for a while at Footscray, he gets promoted to AFL, he plays in a completely different position and gets dropped again.

He looks a little slow at AFL level but we haven't given him a decent run to adjust to the tempo. I'd like to see him have a few weeks of uninterrupted footy at AFL level.

Agree with giving him 4 weeks or so at AFL level, poor kid is like a yo yo. Also give him an extended run in the mid-field which is where he has been great at VFL level (with occasional switch to forward half, not back half where he has been tried at senior's level and done badly at each time). Then if he shows v.little both club and player will know he has given it his best shot (with us).