Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

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  • Hotdog60
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2009
    • 5773

    #16
    Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

    I don't quite make six foot and I will freely give you 15 kilos to take my weight down and bring yours up.
    Don't piss off old people
    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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    • ratsmac
      Coaching Staff
      • May 2009
      • 3974

      #17
      Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

      Without seeing a single game he has played he sounds like a Kieran Collins type to me. His bigger body works in the underage and second tier comps but he'll get found out playing against afl standard men. In saying that you can never write these kids off.
      Last edited by ratsmac; 26-10-2019, 07:55 AM.
      They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21426

        #18
        Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

        Originally posted by ratsmac
        Without seeing a single game he has played he sounds like a Kieran Collins type to me. His bigger body works in the underage and second tier comps but he'll get found out playing against afl standard men. In saying that you can never write these kids off.
        Check his video here:

        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21426

          #19
          Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

          I get the angst around his weight and preparation for the combine testing not being ideal, but he's for all intents and purposes a good footballer and he's delivered against his peers twice when he's had two opportunities to do so in elite football competition.

          That to me counts for more than whatever else.

          Whoever gets him will be happy, but if we think someone is equal to him and ticks the boxes he does footy wise, and tested better then we should look over him.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 43907

            #20
            Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

            Originally posted by jeemak
            I get the angst around his weight and preparation for the combine testing not being ideal, but he's for all intents and purposes a good footballer and he's delivered against his peers twice when he's had two opportunities to do so in elite football competition.

            That to me counts for more than whatever else.

            Whoever gets him will be happy, but if we think someone is equal to him and ticks the boxes he does footy wise, and tested better then we should look over him.
            I don't think there are any doubts on his football ability and there will be more than enough clubs prepared to back their system into getting him into an AFL ready physical condition so he's going to be drafted and it's now just a case of where.
            I'm also confident that clubs will be somewhat understanding that he didn't test well for endurance but the concern has to be about his athleticism and pace which was still a fair way off the mark.

            His achievements during the season will count for a lot as it's an impressive resume he has built over the last 2 years but there will also be some clubs that see him as failing his job interview by simply not being prepared.
            In some ways he's opened the door for clubs not to draft him and many of them don't need a lot of reasons to prefer one player over another.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • Throughandthrough
              Coaching Staff
              • Nov 2007
              • 3203

              #21
              Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

              He’s an extraordinarily great footballer. Has some country bumpkin about him but he will be a regular AFL player. I’d pick him in a minute.

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              • lemmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6432

                #22
                Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                I liked him a lot more before those testing results, and I'm not worried about the weight.

                I struggle to see how a guy with that athletic profile translates his running/line breaking game to AFL level. I'd be keen if he was 5cm taller and a genuine key defender, but I don't really see how a guy who moves how he does finds time and space at AFL level.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14797

                  #23
                  Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                  Originally posted by ratsmac
                  Without seeing a single game he has played he sounds like a Kieran Collins type to me.
                  I really don't see any comparison TBH.
                  Even at VFL level we would have never played through Collins to kickstart scoring chains from the back half.
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 43907

                    #24
                    Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                    Originally posted by lemmon
                    I liked him a lot more before those testing results, and I'm not worried about the weight.

                    I struggle to see how a guy with that athletic profile translates his running/line breaking game to AFL level. I'd be keen if he was 5cm taller and a genuine key defender, but I don't really see how a guy who moves how he does finds time and space at AFL level.
                    That's the challenge for clubs in selecting him. Are the combine results going to translate into a problem at the senior level or can they back themselves to get him right

                    He has the talent I don't think many can question that but he may slide down the order a bit. I still think he gets drafted in the first round.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • FrediKanoute
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 3797

                      #25
                      Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                      Is he a reach at 13?

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 43907

                        #26
                        Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                        Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                        Is he a reach at 13?
                        No, especially not if a club thinks they can get him into shape. He's made it a bit harder for himself that he should have though
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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