Stringer - Would You?

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  • soupman
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2007
    • 5091

    #31
    Re: Stringer - Would You?

    I think I'd prefer Jesse Stringer.
    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13188

      #32
      Re: Stringer - Would You?

      Originally posted by Topdog
      So you wouldnt have a crack then because he hasnt done any of those things and is already 27.
      A lot of water would need to go under the bridge and everything is against it i.e. first dealing with Essendon.

      He hasn't no, but he'd need to make that commitment to Bevo, the players and the club. I'm sure he won't so it's a mute point. I'm almost certain Bevo wouldn't have him back either and fair nuff.

      I'm in the if he got fit, stayed fit and committed to working hard I would look at it for the right price space with him.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 11021

        #33
        Re: Stringer - Would You?

        Originally posted by 1eyedog
        A lot of water would need to go under the bridge and everything is against it i.e. first dealing with Essendon.

        He hasn't no, but he'd need to make that commitment to Bevo, the players and the club. I'm sure he won't so it's a mute point. I'm almost certain Bevo wouldn't have him back either and fair nuff.

        I'm in the if he got fit, stayed fit and committed to working hard I would look at it for the right price space with him.

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13188

          #34
          Re: Stringer - Would You?

          Such a waste. The meals that came out of that kitchen circa 2015-2016 were quite tasty.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • The Bulldogs Bite
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11117

            #35
            Re: Stringer - Would You?

            Originally posted by 1eyedog
            A lot of water would need to go under the bridge and everything is against it i.e. first dealing with Essendon.

            He hasn't no, but he'd need to make that commitment to Bevo, the players and the club. I'm sure he won't so it's a mute point. I'm almost certain Bevo wouldn't have him back either and fair nuff.

            I'm in the if he got fit, stayed fit and committed to working hard I would look at it for the right price space with him.
            I know what you mean.

            It'd be a nice story if Jake and Bevo worked it all out, he committed to the club / getting fit again and went on to help us win more premierships.

            Unfortunately there's more fantasy in that than Disney because the relationship seems to be in tatters - rightfully so you could say - and neither party would want anything to do with one another.

            I still think 'what a damn shame' it didn't work out / blew up as it did given how influential he was in those first few years. He made going to the footy fun again for us.

            JJ and Stringer were seemingly inseparable at one point too. I take it they had a big falling out.
            W00F!

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66118

              #36
              Re: Stringer - Would You?

              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
              I know what you mean.

              It'd be a nice story if Jake and Bevo worked it all out, he committed to the club / getting fit again and went on to help us win more premierships.

              Unfortunately there's more fantasy in that than Disney because the relationship seems to be in tatters - rightfully so you could say - and neither party would want anything to do with one another.

              I still think 'what a damn shame' it didn't work out / blew up as it did given how influential he was in those first few years. He made going to the footy fun again for us.

              JJ and Stringer were seemingly inseparable at one point too. I take it they had a big falling out.
              Whether he mends his ways with our club or not, his performances since mid 2016 have not been any better than your average footballer. Yes we know he has talent, but he is lazy, does not put in 4 quarter efforts and is satisfied after kicking a couple of goals.

              Yes he did have a fall out with JJ, because JJ was also close to his girlfriend and their baby. But after Stringer was playing the field (while GF was pregnant with number 2), gambling and carrying on, the relationship went south.
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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                #37
                Re: Stringer - Would You?

                I just checked his stats. From 2017 to now he’s about 1.6 goals a game. Being that they’ve been under performing, they get softer draws. As a rule the bottom teams have lesser defenders. With his talent and soft draws with lesser defenders/defensive teams, he should be well over that figure over 4.5 years.

                So if this is his output, 1.6 goals per game, I struggle to see why Essendon should be rushing to extend him at the same money and possibly shopping around. Take his name out of it, his recent output puts him in the value around Fantasia & Jaiyden Stevenson. Mid to late second rounders, not a special salary either. They gave us Picks 25 & 30 for him. Maybe they’re thinking of cutting their losses by getting one of them back. Or maybe they’re trying to get him to understand a 1.6 goal a game (lazy) forward isn’t worth multi years and $400,000-$500,000.
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                • Topdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7471

                  #38
                  Re: Stringer - Would You?

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  A lot of water would need to go under the bridge and everything is against it i.e. first dealing with Essendon.

                  He hasn't no, but he'd need to make that commitment to Bevo, the players and the club. I'm sure he won't so it's a mute point. I'm almost certain Bevo wouldn't have him back either and fair nuff.

                  I'm in the if he got fit, stayed fit and committed to working hard I would look at it for the right price space with him.
                  I know you have said it's a moot point already but given that he is 27 and he has made those commitments every year for 5 years does his word even mean anything anymore?

                  Run as far away as possible from this type of character

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44307

                    #39
                    Re: Stringer - Would You?

                    What type of salary would Stringer command in an open market? I think the league average is 350K so perhaps he's worth 450K a season for a 3 year deal.

                    I don't think there would be many clubs that interested either. He's not the right type for North, Hawks and maybe not with Collingwood either. I couldn't see Carlton having any interest either

                    Geelong might be able to squeeze him in but I don't think there would be 4 or 5 clubs interested. Essendon might have the capacity to pay him over 500K per season so he should stay.
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                    • The Bulldogs Bite
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 11117

                      #40
                      Re: Stringer - Would You?

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      What type of salary would Stringer command in an open market? I think the league average is 350K so perhaps he's worth 450K a season for a 3 year deal.

                      I don't think there would be many clubs that interested either. He's not the right type for North, Hawks and maybe not with Collingwood either. I couldn't see Carlton having any interest either

                      Geelong might be able to squeeze him in but I don't think there would be 4 or 5 clubs interested. Essendon might have the capacity to pay him over 500K per season so he should stay.
                      I think he stays.

                      Carlton wouldn't surprise me, Betts is done after this year and Curnow hasn't played for a decade. They've got Harry but I could see them reaching out.

                      Would Richmond have interest? Seems unlikely given the styles of Stringer/Tigers but they might see themselves as an option with Riewoldt nearing the end. He's basically an upgrade on Caddy who they now don't play.

                      Geelong maybe - but how many times can they keep going back to the well? Agree it's a no on North, Hawks, Saints, us and Melbourne.
                      W00F!

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        #41
                        Re: Stringer - Would You?

                        I could see Carlton and Jake being a match made in heaven. For Jake moreso than Carlton but Carlton don't often stop and think these things through, they just tend to think "wow Jake Stringer! He played some good footy several years ago. Obviously we can get him to play good footy again!" and give too much away/pay too much salary for him.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21580

                          #42
                          Re: Stringer - Would You?

                          At 30-35 goals a year as a medium forward he's probably worth $450K p.a. Given his physical issues I wouldn't be offering him more than two years as an interested party (not us).

                          Going back to 2015 did anyone expect him to be a candidate for a late twenties finish?
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13188

                            #43
                            Re: Stringer - Would You?

                            Originally posted by jeemak
                            At 30-35 goals a year as a medium forward he's probably worth $450K p.a. Given his physical issues I wouldn't be offering him more than two years as an interested party (not us).

                            Going back to 2015 did anyone expect him to be a candidate for a late twenties finish?
                            Nope was being compared to Ablett Snr at his height with us. Unfortunately for him his decision making outside of football has been just as controversial.

                            It's difficult for me re. Stringer. He's gone out of his way with my kids a few times both at the club and away from it. Both my kids are on the autism spectrum and he was just sensational with them. Gave us a signed 2017 Premiership jumper and all which is still on the wall.

                            My kids adored him.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14868

                              #44
                              Re: Stringer - Would You?

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              I just checked his stats. From 2017 to now he’s about 1.6 goals a game. Being that they’ve been under performing, they get softer draws. As a rule the bottom teams have lesser defenders. With his talent and soft draws with lesser defenders/defensive teams, he should be well over that figure over 4.5 years.
                              1.6 goals a game for a medium forward that also plays in the middle is outstanding.
                              A lot of full time forwards don't manage that, let alone medium forwards.

                              We have two players averaging more than that this year, both KPFs.
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                              • Happy Days
                                Hall of Fame
                                • May 2008
                                • 10087

                                #45
                                Re: Stringer - Would You?

                                Originally posted by Mofra
                                1.6 goals a game for a medium forward that also plays in the middle is outstanding.
                                A lot of full time forwards don't manage that, let alone medium forwards.

                                We have two players averaging more than that this year, both KPFs.
                                Its a bit of statistical noise though isn’t it? You only have to watch an Essendon second half to see he clearly isn’t involved enough.
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