2025 List Management Thread

[GVGjr]

I see Buku's value as being around pick 35, somewhere between 30-40.

25yo - prime of his career.
Contracted - this is the key part that kicks up his value from pick 50 to a second rounder.
31/47 games in the past two years - that's not quite best 23, but shows he is right in the mix.
Has played forward, back, ruck.

I think we will want to respect his wishes and move him on, but won't do it if the deal is crap.

That appears to be around the mark, I know one or two here believe we are paying too much for Budarick if 37 is used but it's a reasonable return.
The Blues would be getting good value around 30 to 40 mark.

[Grantysghost]

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot love your passion, I'm not overly bothered at this stage if we are cooling our jets for a butters deal. But...we seriously have defensive decencies that don't seem to have been fully addressed.

Budarick and Sellwood should add something to the mix.

Re Marra sadly we could never get Thilthorpe we only had access to Marra due to him being in our NGA. We didn't have pick 1.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re Marra sadly we could never get Thilthorpe we only had access to Marra due to him being in our NGA. We didn't have pick 1.

D'OH, yeah i shoulldve known that.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re Marra sadly we could never get Thilthorpe we only had access to Marra due to him being in our NGA. We didn't have pick 1.

D'OH, yeah i shoulldve known that.

[jeemak]

Yeah but you didn't Mal, and you went off half cocked and now all cred is lost! Boooooooo!

[jeemak]

That appears to be around the mark, I know one or two here believe we are paying too much for Budarick if 37 is used but it's a reasonable return.
The Blues would be getting good value around 30 to 40 mark.

In this environment of picks today being downgraded tomorrow, I reckon Khamis is around early thirties pushed back to late thirties. Two things:

- Carlton need to make it happen
- The AFL needs to stop this false economy of concessional picks distorting the trade period as it's making everyone over-value picks vs. players who have demonstrated capability

[Uninformed]

D'OH, yeah i shoulldve known that.

You seem unhappy about the way the club has gone about it. But which aggressive move has any other club made that would have made us better? I mean actual recruiting moves that have happened that if we had done them would have made us better?

[GVGjr]

Surely a professional list management team is better then waiting for miracles? That just seems bizarre. If it was up to you Gary would you trade our first round pick for Jordan Butts? Interested to know your thoughts? Also If we don't get any one else are you worried about our defensive stocks for 2026, mainly that key back group?

I would not trade a first rounder straight up for Jordan Butts.
I'd certainly prefer us to land a decent player but it's not the most pressing of needs that you have to make a deal at any cost.
Lets see how we are by the end of the night

[jazzadogs]

I would not trade a first rounder straight up for Jordan Butts.
I'd certainly prefer us to land a decent player but it's not the most pressing of needs that you have to make a deal at any cost.
Lets see how we are by the end of the night

Butts for a first rounder is desperation. Allowing for injury he wasn't even best 23, with Keane, Worrell and Murray all playing more games. Murray came in and outperformed him to the point he didn't get back in to the side post injury.

Yes he would play for us, but would he make us significantly better...I'm not sure. First round picks should be reserved for players you are convinced will make your side better.

[Grantysghost]

Butts for a first rounder is desperation. Allowing for injury he wasn't even best 23, with Keane, Worrell and Murray all playing more games. Murray came in and outperformed him to the point he didn't get back in to the side post injury.

Yes he would play for us, but would he make us significantly better...I'm not sure. First round picks should be reserved for players you are convinced will make your side better.

Butts's inflated

[Rusty12]

The club have been clear on their strategy.
They are executing that.
You can disagree with the strategy, but I would rather a club execute their plan than be a random mess.
Most of the names put up are not, either more of the same, or not fit for purpose.
Getting Marras' money off the books and losing the distraction is the biggest move we could hope for, outside of landing Wilkie.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

You seem unhappy about the way the club has gone about it. But which aggressive move has any other club made that would have made us better? I mean actual recruiting moves that have happened that if we had done them would have made us better?

Yeah, not so much just one trade or roster decision/period, I just think, and there a number of examples that overall we've lost talent - not been fairly compensated for that, and I think there are some points of the argument that might indicate we could've done better to mitigate or prepare -but I won't re-litigate those here.
And look as I also said , there is a fair amount of me just having the sooks and having had enough of this aspect - being the one's who are predated. I think I've been consistently a supporter of the club's decision making and coaching.. but this aspect has been percolating for a long time, and the Smith and JUH situations are just the boiling point.

[GVGjr]

Based on some discussions today it's unlikely we will bring in other players tonight. Marra goes and maybe Khamis but it's unlikely.
Delisted Free Agents and the SSP window should be used.

What I'm hearing
Baker has been given a deal to consider
JJ doubtful to be given another offer
Poulter and Coffield unlikely.

[Bornadog]

What I'm hearing
Baker has been given a deal to consider
JJ doubtful to be given another offer
Poulter and Coffield unlikely.

Totally agree with this, however, that would mean we need to bring in 6 players (actually 5 with Budarick).

Edit make it 6 with Marra

[Pleather Sole]

Based on some discussions today it's unlikely we will bring in other players tonight. Marra goes and maybe Khamis but it's unlikely.
Delisted Free Agents and the SSP window should be used.

What I'm hearing
Baker has been given a deal to consider
JJ doubtful to be given another offer
Poulter and Coffield unlikely.

I like this. Punting JJ feels sad but it's time. Budarick is an almost hybrid of Duryea and JJ. Fierce in contests, defense and he can break lines, maybe even the odd end to end goal.
I think Baker will stay unless he gets an offer from home. He has become more consistent this year, really good depth.
Coff and Poulter fine at VFL but good leaves.

I'd be knocking on Jed Bew's door, no star but a bona fide defender that won't break the bank. Sam Frost on a one year deal wouldn't kill me.
Wade Derksen as a burgeoning defender with a mature body, also good depth, could develop as a genuine defender/utility.
Not sure who comes in for Poulter......?
Bring back Luamon Lual and would we be wise to grab Craig Cooper Peters?