Williamstown v Northern Bullants

[Mofra]

Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

I wonder why do you guys think Tiller and Williams are rated above Everitt?

Everitt's skill level is much higher, and provides more rebound. Tiller plays alot harder and probably a bit closer, especially the body on body stuff (although Riewoldt clearly beat him on Friday night IMO).

Strange to compare, because Everitt copped a massive hit two weeks ago, got straight up & competed when I thought the trainers would run out, so the kid is tough.

Williams can play CHB on quick gorillas and his disposal is improving. He'd be above the other two because of the structure he gives the team.

[Mantis]

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Everitt's skill level is much higher, and provides more rebound. Tiller plays alot harder and probably a bit closer, especially the body on body stuff (although Riewoldt clearly beat him on Friday night IMO).

Strange to compare, because Everitt copped a massive hit two weeks ago, got straight up & competed when I thought the trainers would run out, so the kid is tough.

Williams can play CHB on quick gorillas and his disposal is improving. He'd be above the other two because of the structure he gives the team.

Looking back at Tiller's past performances it seems to me that he seems to play well on smaller opponents, but struggle against the bigger (or equal sized) guys.

I think it is time to give Everitt an extended run at the 'Tiller' role as I think Andrejs has much more upsize than Tiller and we need to take the long term view with this position in the team.

[Mofra]

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Looking back at Tiller's past performances it seems to me that he seems to play well on smaller opponents, but struggle against the bigger (or equal sized) guys.

I think it is time to give Everitt an extended run at the 'Tiller' role as I think Andrejs has much more upsize than Tiller and we need to take the long term view with this position in the team.

He'd be in the same boat as Hargrave in that respect.

Everitt may have more upside in the long term, but does have a couple of advantages right now; he's bigger through the shoulders, taller, and his rebound is already ahead of Tiller. I guess they must be playing slightly different roles at the moment, because I was impressed with Everitt's form at Willy last game I saw.

[Mantis]

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He'd be in the same boat as Hargrave in that respect.

Everitt may have more upside in the long term, but does have a couple of advantages right now; he's bigger through the shoulders, taller, and his rebound is already ahead of Tiller. I guess they must be playing slightly different roles at the moment, because I was impressed with Everitt's form at Willy last game I saw.

I think the difference is that through necessity we had to play Hargrave against bigger bodied players, but through choice we are doing the same with Tiller.

Personally I think Tiller is still living off the credits he built up in last years finals when he played a good role, but in the first half of this year he hasn't been consistently as good as we might have hoped and think his credits are about up.

[Mofra]

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Personally I think Tiller is still living off the credits he built up in last years finals when he played a good role, but in the first half of this year he hasn't been consistently as good as we might have hoped and think his credits are about up.

He was BOG in the VFL for a game I saw too, however in that final he did lay off a couple of beautiful 50m passes which he hasn't replicated since he's been back in the senior side.
I can live with him getting beaten by Goodes who is an absolute gun, but I thought Riewoldt beat him too and as much as I rate young Jack, Tiller should've done much better.

[Bornadog]

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I think the difference is that through necessity we had to play Hargrave against bigger bodied players, but through choice we are doing the same with Tiller.

Personally I think Tiller is still living off the credits he built up in last years finals when he played a good role, but in the first half of this year he hasn't been consistently as good as we might have hoped and think his credits are about up.

Tiller is not a tall he is only 1 cm taller than Hargrave.

[Missing Dog]

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Tiller is not a tall he is only 1 cm taller than Hargrave.

So i guess you don't consider Craig Bolton a tall?

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Tall isn't all about height.

[Bornadog]

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So i guess you don't consider Craig Bolton a tall?

no I don't

[Bornadog]

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Tall isn't all about height.

well Tiller doesn't have height or strength. The only thing he has is agility and a leap.

[Rocco Jones]

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no I don't

Do you rate Craig Bolton as a KP defender? If you don't, you must have some enormous standards as I think he is the 2nd best KP defender in the league atm.

[azabob]

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no I don't

Sydney must rate C Bolton as a Key Tall, he seems to pick up the oppositions best forward each week.

[Bornadog]

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Do you rate Craig Bolton as a KP defender? If you don't, you must have some enormous standards as I think he is the 2nd best KP defender in the league atm.

Of course I rate Bolton, never said he wasn't any good, great player, have him anyday. All I am saying is he is not tall.

190cm, is no longer tall. Have a look at these monster kids coming along. Once upon a time the best ruckman, like John Nichols, etc were not much taller than 190cm. Now ruckman are 200cm plus. The human race is getting bigger and bigger and in football terms, 190cm is no longer regarded as tall.

Bolton, like Morris, have to battle it out with guys like Roughead, Tredea, Buddy, Westhoff, Tippet, Reiwoldt etc. all talls. Its a tough ask and you have to be pretty good to beat them if you are only 190cm. Tiller isnot, maybe one day, but at this stage, he should be playing as a HBF. not a KPP.

[Dry Rot]

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Do you rate Craig Bolton as a KP defender? If you don't, you must have some enormous standards as I think he is the 2nd best KP defender in the league atm.

Presume your #1 is Morris?

If so, I can't separate them. Both are tremendous defenders, and way under rated in the broader AFL community IMO.

[Rocco Jones]

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Presume your #1 is Morris?

If so, I can't separate them. Both are tremendous defenders, and way under rated in the broader AFL community IMO.

My #1 KP defender is Scarlett, the best defender I have ever seen. He is great at both stopping dangerous opponents and burning them the other way.

I guess I see Morris in a different category to Bolton and Scarlett as he tends to play on a wider variety of opponents.