Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

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  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6984

    #16
    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

    Can Gold Coast draft Wallis and/or Liberatore as part of their 12 seventeen year-old concessions at the end of this year? Apparently if they reject the GC they will have to sit out the 2011 season.

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    • Happy Days
      Hall of Fame
      • May 2008
      • 10244

      #17
      Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

      Went to watch the Oakleigh vs Calder game today. Firstly, Wallis looks a serious player. He had alot of the ball, his hands looked clean, and he worked both inside and outside. Spent a bit of time forward, but was predominantly played in the middle, before coming off for a rest with 5 minutes to go in the 4th.

      Liberatore was also very impressive, both as an in and under midfielder (he won several clearances), but also as a forward, where he kicked two very nice goals, most impressive was a set shot from 50m comfortably making the distance.

      We might be on to something here.
      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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      • chef
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 14746

        #18
        Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

        Originally posted by Rocco Jones
        Can Gold Coast draft Wallis and/or Liberatore as part of their 12 seventeen year-old concessions at the end of this year? Apparently if they reject the GC they will have to sit out the 2011 season.
        No, as father/sons they are ours if we want them.
        The curse is dead.

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        • boydogs
          WOOF Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 5845

          #19
          Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

          Originally posted by Rocco Jones
          Can Gold Coast draft Wallis and/or Liberatore as part of their 12 seventeen year-old concessions at the end of this year? Apparently if they reject the GC they will have to sit out the 2011 season.
          Too young -

          "Even better timing for the club is the fact that while both boys turn 17 this year, neither’s birthday falls before the April cut-off date for the Gold Coast which has been given the pick of the best 17-year-olds in the competition at the end of 2009. Even the AFL struggled to clarify whether clubs this year could warehouse their 17-year-old father-son prospects should they be eyed by the Gold Coast this year."

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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 18103

            #20
            Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

            Another stats update, after Calder's game against the Oakleigh Chargers.

            <a href="http://s675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/?action=view&current=taccup3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv120/brettmexico/taccup3.jpg" border="0" alt="TAC Cup 3"></a>

            Some direct stats from the game against Oakleigh:

            Wallis: 29 disposals, 5 tackles and a goal. His disposal efficiency was down on previous weeks, but good to see he is continuing to accumulate possessions.

            Liberatore: 23 disposals, 5 tackles and 3 goals. Tom had 1 ineffective disposal for the entire game (an errant kick).

            Interesting to note that after the game on the weekend, Wallis’ disposal efficiency dropped below Liberatore’s for the first time this year.
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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #21
              Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

              When we f/s these boys with our first two picks, what picks will they be roughly.

              GC17 get the first 5 and then another 5 in the top 20 isn't it.

              So we'd be getting them for (roughly) pick 26 and 50.

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 15116

                #22
                Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

                Originally posted by comrade
                Interesting to note that after the game on the weekend, Wallis’ disposal efficiency dropped below Liberatore’s for the first time this year.
                Plenty of kids get drafted with worse stats than that. 2 in one year after Ayce last year, we may end up matching Geelong for F&S luck yet
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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10244

                  #23
                  Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

                  Would anyone happen to know why they didn't play in the Carnival this year?

                  Wallis was far and away best on, with Liberatore not far behind. When you have players this far above the level, it seems confusing for then not to gain higher honours.
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 18103

                    #24
                    Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    Would anyone happen to know why they didn't play in the Carnival this year?

                    Wallis was far and away best on, with Liberatore not far behind. When you have players this far above the level, it seems confusing for then not to gain higher honours.
                    There are whispers that Vic Metro’s selection platform was all about eligible draftees, rather than the best footballers.

                    There are a few I’ve spoken to who believe Wallis in particular should’ve definitely played.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • boydogs
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5845

                      #25
                      Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      When we f/s these boys with our first two picks, what picks will they be roughly.

                      GC17 get the first 5 and then another 5 in the top 20 isn't it.

                      So we'd be getting them for (roughly) pick 26 and 50.

                      Steal of the century.
                      9 of the first 15 and then the first pick each round I believe. 26 sounds about right (if we win the premiership ) but 26 + 17 = 43 for the other
                      If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                      Formerly gogriff

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11602

                        #26
                        Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

                        Originally posted by gogriff
                        9 of the first 15 and then the first pick each round I believe. 26 sounds about right (if we win the premiership ) but 26 + 17 = 43 for the other
                        That's assuming another club will bid their first pick for either of them - not a fait accompli by the sounds. It might end up being pick 43 and pick 60.
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                        • Rocco Jones
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 6984

                          #27
                          Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

                          What unbelievably perfect timing to have two father/son selections in the Gold Coast draft.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #28
                            Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

                            Are we certain they both want to play with us?

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                            • Desipura
                              WOOF Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4344

                              #29
                              Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

                              Originally posted by EJ Smith
                              Are we certain they both want to play with us?
                              Why wouldn't they?
                              Libba has said sorry and Wallis's dad still has some affiliation with the Doggies.

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 15116

                                #30
                                Re: Father/Son Stats - TAC Cup 2009

                                Originally posted by EJ Smith
                                Are we certain they both want to play with us?
                                I thought they both spent their last school holidays with us.
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