Williamstown vs Collingwood

[comrade]

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I'm hoping GVG made it out to Pt. Gellibrand as I'm hanging out for a report.

[bulldogtragic]

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Rocca in the bests. It will be interesting to see if they upset a winning team and formula and bring him back into the AFL side.

Also for any watchers today, did Rusling or Reid play (re: Cash Converters thread topic).

[GVGjr]

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I'm hoping GVG made it out to Pt. Gellibrand as I'm hanging out for a report.

Sorry but I actually went to a couple of TAC games. In hindsight I shouldn't have gone because a lot of the bigger names players didn't play.

Barry Prendergast did have a worried look though.

[comrade]

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Sorry but I actually went to a couple of TAC games. In hindsight I shouldn't have gone because a lot of the bigger names players didn't play.

Barry Prendergast did have a worried look though.

Did you go to the Calder game by any chance?

[Rocco Jones]

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Cue Rocco

No, I know Ocker is a lost cause. I wouldn't have him in our 22 anyway at the moment.

[GVGjr]

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Did you go to the Calder game by any chance?

Sure did and along with the Oakleigh vs Eastern game before that.
Both Libertore and Wallis played.

A who's who of recruiting at both games today and of course yesterdays game at Dandenong.

[comrade]

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Sure did and along with the Oakleigh vs Eastern game before that.
Both Libertore and Wallis played.

A who's who of recruiting at both games today and of course yesterdays game at Dandenong.

You've certainly had a football feast this weekend!

I posted the Calder results in your TAC Cup thread - Wallis and Liberatore both in the bests again. Looking forward to reading your report.

[comrade]

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Barry Prendergast did have a worried look though.

He'll be begging the players to drop the next two after today's win.

[GVGjr]

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He'll be begging the players to drop the next two after today's win.

He's a nice bloke but this is his best chance to really establish himself as a good recruiter. Time will tell if he gets that extra pick.

[GVGjr]

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Williamstown 4.12 5.14 6.18 8.21 (69)
Northern Bullants 0.1 1.2 2.5 3.6 (24)

GOALS:
Williamstown: Daniels 2 Miller Lee Muir Egan Cravino Nicolopoulos
Northern Bullants: Gale Wannouch Saad

BEST:
Williamstown: Langlands Lynch Cravino Rampe Grossman Daniels
Northern Bullants: Bransgrove Adams Totino Meese Wannouch Neaves
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Langlands and Grossman are too good to be playing in the reserves. They must love playing for Williamstown.

[comrade]

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With no WOOFers in attendance, we'll have to rely on the report from the official Williamstown website:

http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-118-10459-0-0&sID=54954&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=9772916&sectionID=54954

Williamstown met Collingwood in Round 18 VFL action on Sunday at Burbank Oval. Williamstown had they bye in Round 17 and had lost their two previous games against Sandringham and North Ballarat. Collingwood had smashed Werribee by 50 points in Round 17 and were now a game clear in eighth position.

Williamstown made 7 changes to the side which lost to North Ballarat by 20 points – Stephen Tiller, Tim Callan and Matthew Little returned from injury, Andrejs Everitt and Brennan Stack returned from the AFL, Nick Georgiadis was promoted for his first senior game and Western Jet Matthew Notman was selected as the 23rd player.

Out of the side went Easton Wood and Sam Reid who were promoted to the Western Bulldogs whilst Chris Egan, Tom Langlands, Matthew Grossman, Jarrad Boumann and Jamason Daniels were dropped to the Reserves.

FIRST QUARTER

Collingwood had first use of a strong wind but it was Williamstown who took the early initiative with the opening 3 goals through Matthew Little who was too quick for Pies defender Lachlan Keefe. The Seagulls midfield was on fire through Wayde Skipper and Jordan Roughead and Ben Jolley, Ben Davies, Brett Johnson, Xavier Gotch, David Stretton and Guy O’Keefe were prominent.

Collingwood responded with goals to Nathan Brown, Danny Stanley and John McCarthy but a fine snap to Jarrad Grant helped the Seagulls to lead by 11 points into the wind. Defenders Stephen Tiller, Tim Callan, Henry White, Matthew Notman and Andrejs Everitt were excellent during the first term.

Williamstown 4.6
Collingwood 3.1

SECOND QUARTER
Williamstown now had the breeze at their back and the Seagulls continued their dominant attack on the ball to kick 9.1 to the Pies 1.4. Forwards Patrick Rose and Dean Galea kicked multiple goals and Matthew Little, Dylan Joyce, Wayde Skipper, Brennan Stack and Guy O’Keefe also kicked majors as the lead ballooned out to 56 points.

Anthony Corrie kicked a great snap goal to record the only major for the Magpies. Dylan Joyce was lively and Nick Georgiadis was having an excellent debut game as Wayde Skipper continued his dominant form. Defenders Scott Meyer, Cam Wight and Jason Cloke were solid contributors.

Williamstown 13.7
Collingwood 4.5

THIRD QUARTER
Collingwood now had the opportunity to reduce the lead with the wind but it was the Seagulls who kicked the first goal through Dylan Joyce. Xavier Gotch then snapped the Seagulls 15th goal before Anthony Rocca snapped two goals in 5 minutes.

Brent Macaffer then kicked his first goal but Dylan Joyce and Dean Galea kicked consecutive goals for the Seagulls to win the quarter against the wind and extend their lead to 60 points. Rookie Henry White was having his finest game at Senior level but the overall evenness of the Seagulls side was too much for the Pies.

Williamstown 17.9
Collingwood 7.9

FOURTH QUARTER
Williamstown now again had the breeze but it was the Pies who were having their best period of the game. Steele Sidebottom, Marty Clarke, John McCarthy and Danny Stanley were prominent and their good play was rewarded with goals to Ryan Cook and Johnny Bennell.

Coach Brad Gotch took the opportunity to rest some of his senior players and give extra minutes to his young players and goals to Dean Galea, Brett Johnson, David Stretton and Dylan Joyce enabled the Seagulls to run out 69 point winners and to get a healthy percentage boost to head the VFL ladder after 18 rounds.

Williamstown 21.9 (135)
Collingwood 9.12 (66)

Goalkickers : Joyce 4, Galea 4, Little 4, Rose 2, Johnson 1, Skipper 1, Gotch 1, Stack 1, Grant 1, Stretton 1, O’Keefe 1
Best Players : Jolley, Skipper, Stretton, Joyce, O’Keefe, Galea

RESERVES WRAP
Williamstown snapped a 3 game losing streak by defeating the Northern Bullants by 45 points in tough wet and windy conditions.

Williamstown made 12 changes to the Reserve side that lost to North Ballarat and the return of these players certainly assisted the team in recording a dominant win.

Williamstown 4.12 5.14 6.18 8.21 (69)
Collingwood 0.1 1.2 2.5 3.6 (24)

Goalkickers : Daniels 2, Miller 1, Lee 1, Muir 1, Egan 1, Cravino 1, Nicolopoulos 1
Best Players : Langlands, Lynch, Cravino, Rampe, Grossman, Daniels

Would like to hear from the usual Willy Watchers and their thoughts on Boumann getting dropped - is Gotch taking his development role at the Bulldogs seriously?

[Big_Willba]

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With no WOOFers in attendance, we'll have to rely on the report from the official Williamstown website:




Would like to hear from the usual Willy Watchers and their thoughts on Boumann getting dropped - is Gotch taking his development role at the Bulldogs seriously?

Its astonishing to see that cam wight is being played ahead of boumann. You would think Wight is gone at the end of the year so why not put senior games into boumann who is said to be a "Project Player".

mind blowing the some of the selections down there. not to mention for the dogs. O'Keefe and Skipper among the best again. i really do feel sorry for these blokes now.

[bulldogtragic]

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Its astonishing to see that cam wight is being played ahead of boumann. You would think Wight is gone at the end of the year so why not put senior games into boumann who is said to be a "Project Player".

mind blowing the some of the selections down there. not to mention for the dogs. O'Keefe and Skipper among the best again. i really do feel sorry for these blokes now.

I can see where Gotch is coming from, from a Willi perspective, right this week, Wight probably just offers more than Bou. But Gotch from a WBFC perspective seems almost derelict in his duty leaving Bou in thne magoos while playing Wight who is set for a triumphant return to suburban footy next year. Next year Bou will offer much, much more than Wight, and he shouldn't be derrived senior game time, especially finals games which could be invaluable for him.

As for Skipper, he is this years Peter Street. Skipper has found his football level of ability and it's the VFL. That's the reality, i have no issue with him not being in the side. He has had 5 or so years and hasn't taken his opportunity at AFL level - That's the way it goes. However, i feel somewhat for Ocka, but he needs to do things to get Rodney in his camp beyond playing well at Willi. What he can do, if he ever can do it, are some big questions i will leave for others to ask.

[comrade]

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I can see where Gotch is coming from, from a Willi perspective, right this week, Wight probably just offers more than Bou. But Gotch from a WBFC perspective seems almost derelict in his duty leaving Bou in thne magoos while playing Wight who is set for a triumphant return to suburban footy next year. Next year Bou will offer much, much more than Wight, and he shouldn't be derrived senior game time, especially finals games which could be invaluable for him.

I have absolutely no issue with Skipper playing as the main ruckman at Willy this year, both from a Williamstown and Bulldogs perspective. Willy are much more dangerous with him there, and Roughead is being given the chance to develop without riding him into the ground.

Why would you drop a guy that is clearly in our plans moving forward (from Rocket’s mouth) and play him against crappy opposition, where he barely would’ve gotten a look at the ball all day (The Bullants reserves team kicked 3 goals and Boumann most likely would’ve played back) – how does Gotch justify his position as development coach when a move like that is counter-productive to what he’s being paid by the Bulldogs to do. We lack depth in our tall defensive stocks, yet he’s playing a promising KPD in the magoo’s.

Someone will say that he’s also being paid by Williamstown to win. Does Boumann really offer anything less than Wight at this stage? He’s borderline with Wight as to what they both offer defensively, and I’d much rather Boumann have the ball in his hands, making decisions when coming out of the defensive 50. Plus, Wight is gone at the end of the year, so why keep investing time and energy in him when those resources are much better placed in someone who has a future at our club.

Rocket needs to put the squeeze on Gotch and get him on the same page.

[bulldogtragic]

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I have absolutely no issue with Skipper playing as the main ruckman at Willy this year, both from a Williamstown and Bulldogs perspective. Willy are much more dangerous with him there, and Roughead is being given the chance to develop without riding him into the ground.

Why would you drop a guy that is clearly in our plans moving forward (from Rocket’s mouth) and play him against crappy opposition, where he barely would’ve gotten a look at the ball all day (The Bullants reserves team kicked 3 goals and Boumann most likely would’ve played back) – how does Gotch justify his position as development coach when a move like that is counter-productive to what he’s being paid by the Bulldogs to do. We lack depth in our tall defensive stocks, yet he’s playing a promising KPD in the magoo’s.

Someone will say that he’s also being paid by Williamstown to win. Does Boumann really offer anything less than Wight at this stage? He’s borderline with Wight as to what they both offer defensively, and I’d much rather Boumann have the ball in his hands, making decisions when coming out of the defensive 50. Plus, Wight is gone at the end of the year, so why keep investing time and energy in him when those resources are much better placed in someone who has a future at our club.

Rocket needs to put the squeeze on Gotch and get him on the same page.

I agree, these issues with VFL affiliates keep on coming up, like Pods at Werribee. The only pure solution is to have a Footscray Football Club in the VFL, but with 4,000 slack arses not signing up each year, it makes it dificult.

I feel your pain as the '#2 Bou', but if they pull this shit with Jones nect year, especially if we recruit a hack like Hansen which clogs up the list, i will grab a pitchfork and fire lamp and march on Whitten Oval.