Rookies to be included in trade week

[The Coon Dog]

Rookies to be included in trade week

By Mic Cullen 6:07 PM Thu 20 August, 2009

THE AFL has moved to allow rookies to be part of trade week to encourage more movement of players between clubs post-season.

The AFL Commission approved the AFL and AFLPA Player Movement Working Party's recommendation that clubs should be able to include rookie list players as part of any trade.

As part of the changes to the player rules, any rookie player who is included in a trade must be placed on the senior list of the club to which he is traded.

Also, clubs may now count a post-season rookie upgrade – from the rookie list to the senior list – as one of their three compulsory changes to the senior list.

This change is designed to provide clubs more flexibility in their list given the recent change to draft age and the forthcoming draft concessions provided to the Gold Coast Football Club.



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[comrade]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

I think it's a positive move - if we decide not to elevate some of our second year rookies, I hope they can get a chance elsewhere.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

That is interesting.

We could, if we so choose:

Delist Wight, Skipper, O'Shea
Retire Welsh & Eagleton
Trade O'Keefe
= 6 out

Elevate Picken, Shaw, Mulligan
Trade for Hall
= 4 in

And go into the draft with just 2 picks.



/// Not saying that this is what I would do or what I think Eade would do, just that it is now possible. ///

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

We could, if we so choose:

Delist Wight, Skipper, O'Shea
Retire Welsh & Eagleton
Trade O'Keefe
= 6 out

Elevate Picken, Shaw, Mulligan
Trade for Hall
= 4 in

And go into the draft with just 2 picks.

Or just whack him on the veteran's list.

[chef]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

Or just whack him on the veteran's list.

Do you think he has another season in him ?

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

Do you think he has another season in him ?

At times he shows (such as last week) he can still run & kick long goals, something in short supply.

I'm not the one who has to make the call on that, but if the club do decide to retain him, he can be placed on the veteran's list (along with Johnno) & only half their salary counts in the cap & we can have 2 less rookies as a result.

Veterans are not on the list in a sense so putting him on there wouldn't deprive us of an additional selection in the National Draft.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

At times he shows (such as last week) he can still run & kick long goals, something in short supply.

1 week of 6. Can we afford to go through 5 weeks of crap everytime?

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

1 week of 6. Can we afford to go through 5 weeks of crap everytime?

Did pretty well tonight against Geelong. I'd keep him around for one more year.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

Did pretty well tonight against Geelong. I'd keep him around for one more year.

Unfortunately for Eagle we need to free up some cap space. That means Welsh, Eagle and maybe even Hahn could be in strife.

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

Unfortunately for Eagle we need to free up some cap space. That means Welsh, Eagle and maybe even Hahn could be in strife.

He might have his bacon saved as a consequence of being eligible for the veterans list next season.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

He might have his bacon saved as a consequence of being eligible for the veterans list next season.

That only half saves him.

I don't know how much Eagle would be on. $300K perhaps? Delisting rather than vet listing would still save us $150K.

[GVGjr]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

That only half saves him.

I don't know how much Eagle would be on. $300K perhaps? Delisting rather than vet listing would still save us $150K.

I'm far from an Eagleton basher but we will need to make some hard decisions at the end of the season on who we maintain and veterans list or not, Eagleton would need some luck to be maintained.

[mjp]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

That is interesting.

We could, if we so choose:

Delist Wight, Skipper, O'Shea
Retire Welsh & Eagleton
Trade O'Keefe
= 6 out

Elevate Picken, Shaw, Mulligan
Trade for Hall
= 4 in

And go into the draft with just 2 picks.



/// Not saying that this is what I would do or what I think Eade would do, just that it is now possible. ///

I think Lynch would be very lucky to be retained as well SS - that would be seven (7) out.

Skipper is interesting though - if he is delisted it almost means that Shaw needs to be elevated...and Shaw probably isn't quite ready. This will be an important decision, but going with Shaw over Skipper will save the club around AUD$60K so there is a financial as well as age issue for making that decision.

I would prefer to try and re-rookie both Mulligan and Shaw if possible - I think they are now reaching the stage where if there is an injury they could (should!) be able to come in and perform...but it is unlikely they will be required unless there is an injury.

The outs for me are O'Keefe (traded - we clearly dont want him), Lynch, Wight and O'Shea with Welsh and Eagleton to retire (or be instructed that they have retired). Picken elevated - try and re-rookie the other two but if we cant, well...does it really matter that much?

I would like to think Aker continues and forget the pay cut - he is still in our best 4 or 5 players and one more year at whatever he is on right now sounds like a great deal to me.

[mighty_west]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

That only half saves him.

I don't know how much Eagle would be on. $300K perhaps? Delisting rather than vet listing would still save us $150K.

Another option could be to offer him a 1 year deal on the vets list, but with a massive pay cut, say he is on 300K, tell him to play he has to take a 50% cut to go on, therefor only 75K goes onto the cap.

[Mofra]

Re: Rookies to be included in trade week

Unfortunately for Eagle we need to free up some cap space. That means Welsh, Eagle and maybe even Hahn could be in strife.

How would Eagle going free up cap space? Even if he is on much more than base, 50% of his pay will not be counted on the Vets list. He will probably cost the club little more (perhaps even less) than a first year player.