2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

[LostDoggy]

Re: 2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

There was this kid O'Keefe... oh, right.

Great point Lantern. Okeefe is a class above his Vfl teammates from what we have seen & he is only 19.Why would we want to rookie anyone from Willy & trade him away it doesn't make sense?
Rose is the most likely to be rookied apparently & Okeefe has him covered in ability already & is 3 or 4 years younger & can play the role up forward that Rose would be earmarked for.

The major difference is Okeefe could also move into a midfield or half back role as he gets fitter & the pace of the AFL.

Why would we trade Okeefe? If we got a 3rd or 4th round pick for him we would be lucky if they were as talented as he is or could play as well as he has consistently in his first 2 years?

I know Willy won't pay to rookie Sam Dwyer from Port but he would be a better bet as a rookie as he has pace, no good getting a rookie for the sake of it if they are not going to add anything to our list that we have not already got.imo.

[chef]

Re: 2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

Great point Lantern. Okeefe is a class above his Vfl teammates from what we have seen & he is only 19.Why would we want to rookie anyone from Willy & trade him away it doesn't make sense?
Rose is the most likely to be rookied apparently & Okeefe has him covered in ability already & is 3 or 4 years younger & can play the role up forward that Rose would be earmarked for.

The major difference is Okeefe could also move into a midfield or half back role as he gets fitter & the pace of the AFL.

Why would we trade Okeefe? If we got a 3rd or 4th round pick for him we would be lucky if they were as talented as he is or could play as well as he has consistently in his first 2 years?

I know Willy won't pay to rookie Sam Dwyer from Port but he would be a better bet as a rookie as he has pace, no good getting a rookie for the sake of it if they are not going to add anything to our list that we have not already got.imo.

It might help to get Hall.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

If the Bulldogs want him, Willy will put up the cash and we'll take him with our second pick in the rookie draft - same scenario as Picken.

I do rate Rose's on field ability - his hands are fantastic for a small forward and he has 'tricks'. I've heard whispers about his off-field demeanor but I'm sure it's nothing that Barry won't sort out

If you speak to a few of the Williamstown officials they all love Rose however, just about all of them acknowledge that he is a greedy so and so when he's within the 50mtr arc.
I asked one of the guys about if he thought Rose could settle into the senior side like Picken did and he didn't think so. His comment was "at best he adds depth and 4 or 5 games a season will be all that he could achieve"
To be honest, I'd be more than happy with that.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: 2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

If you speak to a few of the Williamstown officials they all love Rose however, just about all of them acknowledge that he is a greedy so and so when he's within the 50mtr arc.
I asked one of the guys about if he thought Rose could settle into the senior side like Picken did and he didn't think so. His comment was "at best he adds depth and 4 or 5 games a season will be all that he could achieve"
To be honest, I'd be more than happy with that.

Can you spell list clogger?

[GVGjr]

Re: 2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

Can you spell list clogger?

So you wouldn't rookie list him?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

If you speak to a few of the Williamstown officials they all love Rose however, just about all of them acknowledge that he is a greedy so and so when he's within the 50mtr arc.
I asked one of the guys about if he thought Rose could settle into the senior side like Picken did and he didn't think so. His comment was "at best he adds depth and 4 or 5 games a season will be all that he could achieve"
To be honest, I'd be more than happy with that.

Is there room in modern day 'team' footy for a KB sort?

[GVGjr]

Re: 2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

Is there room in modern day 'team' footy for a KB sort?

I haven't seen anything to suggest that he is in KB's greedy league but like a lot of footballers, he does have some tunnel vision. Our own Brad Johnson has a reputation for that as well and we tend to accept that.
I'm all for adding Rose to the rookie list but I doubt he could contribute anything like Picken has and it's probably unfair to expect that from him.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: 2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

So you wouldn't rookie list him?

No, I wouldn't.

He's a one trick pony who I doubt could do it at AFL level and I can't see a whole lot of room for improvement. I agree he could easily get a few games but I can't see him being a regular contributor.

But then, hey, I was the one who said Ben Hudson was too slow and lacked the athleticism to play AFL as well.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

I haven't seen anything to suggest that he is in KB's greedy league but like a lot of footballers, he does have some tunnel vision. Our own Brad Johnson has a reputation for that as well and we tend to accept that.
I'm all for adding Rose to the rookie list but I doubt he could contribute anything like Picken has and it's probably unfair to expect that from him.

Fair enough, as an avid watcher i will accept your opinion GVGjr as your often right. But thyen the question comes in is the rookie list for depth/top up players or unearthing a potential talent that has yet to burst out. The reason i ask is the philosophy of the club is importan for whether someone like Mulligan or Shaw is retained for depth or delisted and we look for the next Harbrow, Boyd, Morris or Picken.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

But thyen the question comes in is the rookie list for depth/top up players or unearthing a potential talent that has yet to burst out. The reason i ask is the philosophy of the club is importan for whether someone like Mulligan or Shaw is retained for depth or delisted and we look for the next Harbrow, Boyd, Morris or Picken.

It's a balancing act isn't it with no real correct answer?
However, my take on it is that given we keep morning on experienced players like Power, McMahon and Ray along with a few retirees and pretty much just replace them with unproven kids so I'm not against adding some players with State League experience as a bit of security.

To my way of thinking, ideally a 5 player rookie list should contain 2 players with some senior football experience, 1 project player like Mulligan and a couple of guys with the potential to develop into senior footballers.
It's tempting to get caught up with the youth policy and I'm not sure if what I have said above can be achieved every year but it's something like what I think we should be working towards.

[LostDoggy]

Re: 2009 Willi Players: Any draft potential?

I wouldnt be suprised at all to see Dane Rampe's name called out come rookie day. I cant see who else other than the Bulldogs (who would see him play every week) throw his name up for a state screening.