SA youth proving a tall order

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SA youth proving a tall order

SOUTH Australia is home to the best talls, while Victoria is the place to look for smalls in this year’s draft talent pool, according to Adelaide recruiting manager Matt Rendell.

Almost half of the players in the Croweaters’ 45-man squad are 185cm or taller, with at least four - Sam Day (195cm), Scott Lycett (202cm), Daniel Gorringe (198cm) and Jamie Solly (190cm) - expected to be snapped up within the first 25 picks of the 2010 NAB AFL Draft to be held on the Gold Coast on November 18.

Glenelg defender Sebastian Tape (189cm) and forward Patrick McCarthy (194cm), who almost ended up at Gold Coast last year, are also attracting plenty of attention from recruiters

Day, 17, is expected to follow in former Sturt and Prince Alfred College teammate Jack Trengove’s footsteps and be the first South Australian selected in the draft, but Rendell said he expected several other locals to be high up in the pecking order.

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With the lack of good picks this year we couldn't of wanted any better father & son options.

Interesting that Matt Rendell is getting a fair bit of media attention at the moment after canning the selection process in the next 2 years drafts.

I think we have enough talls coming through and need a few runners with good kicking legs.

[Go_Dogs]

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I think we have enough talls coming through and need a few runners with good kicking legs.

Based on what I saw yesterday there will be enough talent in the draft pool this year, although I doubt the quality will be quite as high as some other years.

There was certainly a few good runners with good kicking skills on display yesterday. Finding another crumbing option or two should also be a priority IMHO.

[comrade]

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Based on what I saw yesterday there will be enough talent in the draft pool this year, although I doubt the quality will be quite as high as some other years.

There was certainly a few good runners with good kicking skills on display yesterday. Finding another crumbing option or two should also be a priority IMHO.

Hopefully Thorne gets thrown forward and shows a bit once (if) he returns this year.

A good tallish defender and a medium forward type (Matt Little?) would complement our two F/S selections. I wouldn't be against throwing another ruckman on the rookie list, though Prato is developing nicely, IMO.

[Go_Dogs]

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A good tallish defender and a medium forward type (Matt Little?) would complement our two F/S selections. I wouldn't be against throwing another ruckman on the rookie list, though Prato is developing nicely, IMO.

With Mulligan, Boumann and Tiller on the list, I'm not convinced we need another tall defender, but I guess a lot of that depends on where our guys are at come seasons end, and if we think they'll be players going forwards.

I'm also hopeful that guys like Grant, Hill and Stack can really play as medium forwards too. I certainly see the merits in your argument though, given the age of Johnson, Akermanis, Hahn, Gia, Murph etc.

As others on this board have noted, taking a punt on a ruck each year isn't bad insurance.

I hope we look for some quick, skillful, run and carry players if available at our 'live' selections, as well as crumbers. Thorne is certainly an interesting one, and could potentially fill that crumbing role, but having a multitude of options isn't a bad thing. As far as quick, run and carry, we all know we need a few more options there.

[comrade]

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With Mulligan, Boumann and Tiller on the list, I'm not convinced we need another tall defender,

I'm thinking more of a Brian Lake clone for a few years time. Boumann is a Shaggy-third defender-type and Tiller is a battling fix-it-man that will never play a key post at AFL level.

Of that list, only Mulligan can really claim to be a genuine full back prospect and an extremely raw one at that.

I'm also hopeful that guys like Grant, Hill and Stack can really play as medium forwards too. I certainly see the merits in your argument though, given the age of Johnson, Akermanis, Hahn, Gia, Murph etc.

Losing those guys, along with Hall, within 1-3 years is going to take some replacing. Grant has come on in leaps and bounds (thankfully) and Jones looks a likely prospect but Hill and Stack are no guarantees. I'd feel much more comfortable about the next few years if I knew we had one or two more hard working, genuinely talented forwards coming through the ranks.

I hope we look for some quick, skillful, run and carry players if available at our 'live' selections, as well as crumbers. Thorne is certainly an interesting one, and could potentially fill that crumbing role, but having a multitude of options isn't a bad thing. As far as quick, run and carry, we all know we need a few more options there.

An injection of pace would be a welcome addition to the list, especially considering Libba and Wallis aren't lightning (but certainly quick enough). I actually think Tutt will suprise next year and get some game time; I'm hopeful he becomes our Eagleton-outside mid replacement rather than developing off the half back which we should have covered in the future by Howard and Wood.

A quick, defensively proficient goal sneak is a must and is the most glaring hole in our best 22.

[boydogs]

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A quick, defensively proficient goal sneak is a must and is the most glaring hole in our best 22.

Our number 40 goes alright

[LostDoggy]

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[QUOTE=gogriff;159505]Our number 40 goes alright[/QUOTE

Yes in the back half

If you have played footy you would know how much harder it is as a forward and there is a reason why he never made it as a forward.

I love the guy but i don't think he is our answer up forward, he is more valuable in deffence then him kicking 20 to 30 goals up forward, he would need to be able to kick almost 50 to make it worth while and i don't think he has that in him

[boydogs]

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Yes in the back half

If you have played footy you would know how much harder it is as a forward and there is a reason why he never made it as a forward.

I love the guy but i don't think he is our answer up forward, he is more valuable in deffence then him kicking 20 to 30 goals up forward, he would need to be able to kick almost 50 to make it worth while and i don't think he has that in him

I think he did make it as a forward, he was pretty good there. There are some youtube highlights to remind anyone that can only remember his time as a defender. No-one is saying he hasn't improved since his move to defense, but how much of this is the role and how much is his personal development?

comrade even mentioned 'defensively proficient', I still question his skills as a pure defender but he would have a much improved defensive side to his game now than when he was last in the forward line

I disagree on where his value lies also, I think we have a lot of players that could provide defensive rebound, but no-one who can play as a crumber

Our forward line has changed since he was last a forward, we have Barry Hall, Will Minson and Brian Lake there at times to read the ball from, there is more crumbing work to do than ever before so I think he could be a lot more effective than he used to be there for us when we were full of medium sized forwards that we had to spot up on the lead

On topic, we could certainly use more crumbing talent, 2 Lakes and 2 Harbrows would be great, but I think Harbrow could work well up forward if we tried him down there now

[chef]

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Our number 40 goes alright

Who would replace him in our back half?

[Go_Dogs]

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I'm thinking more of a Brian Lake clone for a few years time. Boumann is a Shaggy-third defender-type and Tiller is a battling fix-it-man that will never play a key post at AFL level.

Of that list, only Mulligan can really claim to be a genuine full back prospect and an extremely raw one at that.

Yep, fair enough call.

I guess a lot of it depends on how Boumann (eventually) fills out, which may not happen for another 2-3 years yet. I still think he can become a good option at full back, but I certainly wouldn't want to see him opposed to a J Brown. By the time he comes good though, a few of those bigger forwards may well be retired or in the twilight of their careers. I think he'd be a good option to play on modern day FF's like Jack Riewoldt.

Finding another Lake won't be an easy task though.

Could Tiller become our new Morris?

Losing those guys, along with Hall, within 1-3 years is going to take some replacing. Grant has come on in leaps and bounds (thankfully) and Jones looks a likely prospect but Hill and Stack are no guarantees. I'd feel much more comfortable about the next few years if I knew we had one or two more hard working, genuinely talented forwards coming through the ranks.

Again, hard to disagree with the logic here. I agree that there are no guarantees with Hill and Stack, but Hill has played a lot of football now and is certainly capable of performing at AFL level. Stack we still need to see a bit more of, but I have some faith.

Pat Rose seems to have drifted completely off the radar after a lackluster season so far this year which is a little disappointing as he could've been a good, immediate replacement for Johnson.

I think there will definitely be some guys who fit this category in the draft.

An injection of pace would be a welcome addition to the list, especially considering Libba and Wallis aren't lightning (but certainly quick enough). I actually think Tutt will suprise next year and get some game time; I'm hopeful he becomes our Eagleton-outside mid replacement rather than developing off the half back which we should have covered in the future by Howard and Wood.

A quick, defensively proficient goal sneak is a must and is the most glaring hole in our best 22.

Yep, that would be a good role for Tutt and certainly ease the burden of losing Eagleton. Keeping Harbrow is crucial though, and if he goes at the end of the year I'd really like to see it be our focus again this draft period.

[Mantis]

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I hope we look for some quick, skillful, run and carry players if available at our 'live' selections, as well as crumbers. Thorne is certainly an interesting one, and could potentially fill that crumbing role, but having a multitude of options isn't a bad thing. As far as quick, run and carry, we all know we need a few more options there.

Considering our first 'live' pick may not be til somewhere in the early 60's it's going to be hard to find these types.

[mighty_west]

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Who would replace him in our back half?

Murphy & Griffen.

I think most of us agree that Murph sould be left down back now, he reads the play so damn well, and his kicking skills especially against Brissy were just sublime, Jarrad Grant has pretty much taken Murphs position up forward, so i see that as a win/win.

Along with Griff spending some time down back as well as the midfield, we also have Gilbee as well, all 3 have sensational kicking skills, and will not just bang it forward in hope on occasions like Harbrow can.

I still have Harbrows first game on DVD, against the Swannies in Canberra in the NAB Cup, and he was just a livewire that day [i know it's only one game], but he showed he can more than match it up forward.

[Desipura]

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Considering our first 'live' pick may not be til somewhere in the early 60's it's going to be hard to find these types.

This is where we may have to trade a player that we have a surplus of ie half forward flankers that may be of interest to another club. This should enable us to get an earlier pick.

[Go_Dogs]

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Considering our first 'live' pick may not be til somewhere in the early 60's it's going to be hard to find these types.

Of course we won't find ones that tick every box at pick 60, and most likely won't find any that make an immediate impact, but there seems (at this early stage) to be a lot of guys who could potentially fill this role at AFL level (quick, good outside, good kicks).

A lot also depends on what happens during trade week, as we just might end up with another live selection - which opens the door a little more again.