Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

[Remi Moses]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

Not sure what game some you watched, Howard did more bad things than good.

Difficult day for Someone like Howard . Matter of opinion I suppose, think Gilbee is done.
Fall from Grace for Xavier Ellis, he looked like a star of the game four years ago.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

I didn't want Sherman out of the side when he was dropped but his performances at Willi do not bode well for a recall. If he gets back in it will pretty much be purely due to needing his pace.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

IMO Hooper is a bit like a VFL version of Gia/Higgins (superficial aspects aside!). Doesn't get much of it, not great with his defensive pressure, doesn't really crumb like a small but pinches a couple of goals from his smarts/cheating (I mean that in a niceish way!).

Ah come on. Hooper has been a non-entity in the past and maybe will always be a VFL player but credit where it is due. Today was a squall, a dirty day, and I thought he applied some pretty good tackles and pressure.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

Ah come on. Hooper has been a non-entity in the past and maybe will always be a VFL player but credit where it is due. Today was a squall, a dirty day, and I thought he applied some pretty good tackles and pressure.

Nah Hooper cheats. His goals are over the top handballs or from turnovers.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

Nah Hooper cheats. His goals are over the top handballs or from turnovers.

Also from peeling off and getting kick over the top.

I don't see getting goals from 'cheating' as a flat out bad thing. A lot of the goals come from him being smart. The issue I think is that along with Higgins and Gia, he doesn't do enough elsewhere.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

Nah Hooper cheats. His goals are over the top handballs or from turnovers.

Steven Milne, Eddie Betts, Nahas ' cheat'. Don't see the difference. Laid some very strong tackles. What's not to like about those efforts?
A serviceable VFL game. Won't be in the AFL in any hurry but is an effective VFL small forward.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

Also from peeling off and getting kick over the top.

I don't see getting goals from 'cheating' as a flat out bad thing. A lot of the goals come from him being smart. The issue I think is that along with Higgins and Gia, he doesn't do enough elsewhere.

Actually I think Shaun and Gia have looked better than last season. It's bit of a funny comparison anyway.

[Mantis]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

Actually I think Shaun and Gia have looked better than last season.

Higgins maybe, but Gia is a shadow of last year...

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

Higgins maybe, but Gia is a shadow of last year...

Maybe - getting back to the VFL, Jong looked better today. Still a very long way to go.
Any news about the Box Hill player who was taken to hospital? A real worry.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

Steven Milne, Eddie Betts, Nahas ' cheat'. Don't see the difference. Laid some very strong tackles. What's not to like about those efforts?
A serviceable VFL game. Won't be in the AFL in any hurry but is an effective VFL small forward.

Each of those are at least a class above Hooper and at least 1 other string to their bow include speed.

Not sure why we need to worry about effective VFL players, we play AFL.

[The Pie Man]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

IMO Hooper is a bit like a VFL version of Gia/Higgins (superficial aspects aside!). Doesn't get much of it, not great with his defensive pressure, doesn't really crumb like a small but pinches a couple of goals from his smarts/cheating (I mean that in a niceish way!).

I'm not going to advocate a Hooper recall but he gets a bad wrap for a perceived lack of defensive pressure. He's way quicker than Gia/Higgins and from what I can see, he chases and tackles ok.

I like Pearce, though if he's to play on small forwards he needs to pay them more respect.

I think Jong has a future - bit to do but he has promise

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

Each of those are at least a class above Hooper and at least 1 other string to their bow include speed.

Not sure why we need to worry about effective VFL players, we play AFL.

Because this is the VFL thread
Was never comparing the players, but in reference to getting 'cheap goals'.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

Because this is the VFL thread
Was never comparing the players, but in reference to getting 'cheap goals'.

?You named the players not me.
Even comparing cheap goals at vfl level to afl doesn't work.
Say Nick Sautner next time

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

Each of those are at least a class above Hooper and at least 1 other string to their bow include speed.

Not sure why we need to worry about effective VFL players, we play AFL.

There is a place for goal sneaks at all levels AFL or VFL
If they apply defensive pressure and play for the team, who cares?
Laid some good tackles and played a role ( in the VFL ) similar to the one played by other goal sneaks in the AFL. Well done Hoops.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Williamstown vs Box Hill - Round 11

There is a place for goal sneaks at all levels AFL or VFL
If they apply defensive pressure and play for the team, who cares?

I support an afl club. Hoopers place is vfl at best.