EPL Season 2017/18

[Remi Moses]

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Love to know if they’re making any money out of their franchises ?

[Twodogs]

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Love to know if they’re making any money out of their franchises ?

There's money and money though isn't there? I mean what we would consider a money making transaction (ID a player with potential early, sign him and then sell the contract for a profit later) has been refined by the City group to the nth degree.

They buy entire teams and then have access to every bit of IP, recruiting, scouting all of that. In the next few years there won't be a young player with talent emerge without City knowing about it and having a representative on his doorstep in record time. It probably saves them a motza on having heaps of scouts in every corner of the world too.

Anyway they have accountants who would swear blind and then prove that a loss is a profit, a deficit is a surplus and that ten bucks in your pocket actually belongs to them as well as the $2 administration fee you now owe them.

[comrade]

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Love to know if they’re making any money out of their franchises ?

They've invested in teams in Spain (Girona) and Uruguay (Torque) that were both 2nd tier clubs who, after being bought by City, immediately improved enough to get promoted to the top flight in that country's league. The outlay would have been minuscule in the scheme of things. They now have a foothold in 2 gigantic football regions - to funnel players through as they develop, increase sponsorship exposure etc. The bigger these clubs get, they'll naturally become Man City fans too, as they'll follow their favourite players.

The City group also started a soccer team from scratch in the biggest sports market in the world - New York City. In fact, they've partnered with the Steinbrenners (Yankee owners) in the deal. Imagine the cross promotion you can do with various sports teams and the advertising dollars you can generate in a market like that. Again, the bigger their New York club gets, the more Man City fans will be created.

Man City is the jewel in the crown. Everything is built around making it the preeminent sports entertainment brand in the world. the CEO of the City group wanted to do it with Barcelona when he was the chief there but their ownership structure disallowed it (fan owned). Big mistake by Barcelona, who could have taken this concept and absolutely destroyed everyone.

[Twodogs]

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They've invested in teams in Spain (Girona) and Uruguay (Torque) that were both 2nd tier clubs who, after being bought by City, immediately improved enough to get promoted to the top flight in that country's league. The outlay would have been minuscule in the scheme of things. They now have a foothold in 2 gigantic football regions - to funnel players through as they develop, increase sponsorship exposure etc. The bigger these clubs get, they'll naturally become Man City fans too, as they'll follow their favourite players.

The City group also started a soccer team from scratch in the biggest sports market in the world - New York City. In fact, they've partnered with the Steinbrenners (Yankee owners) in the deal. Imagine the cross promotion you can do with various sports teams and the advertising dollars you can generate in a market like that. Again, the bigger their New York club gets, the more Man City fans will be created.

Man City is the jewel in the crown. Everything is built around making it the preeminent sports entertainment brand in the world. the CEO of the City group wanted to do it with Barcelona when he was the chief there but their ownership structure disallowed it (fan owned). Big mistake by Barcelona, who could have taken this concept and absolutely destroyed everyone.

What happened to the MSL club New York Red bull? I haven't really been following it since Thierry left.

[comrade]

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What happened to the MSL club New York Red bull? I haven't really been following it since Thierry left.

Still in the league.

[Remi Moses]

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They've invested in teams in Spain (Girona) and Uruguay (Torque) that were both 2nd tier clubs who, after being bought by City, immediately improved enough to get promoted to the top flight in that country's league. The outlay would have been minuscule in the scheme of things. They now have a foothold in 2 gigantic football regions - to funnel players through as they develop, increase sponsorship exposure etc. The bigger these clubs get, they'll naturally become Man City fans too, as they'll follow their favourite players.

The City group also started a soccer team from scratch in the biggest sports market in the world - New York City. In fact, they've partnered with the Steinbrenners (Yankee owners) in the deal. Imagine the cross promotion you can do with various sports teams and the advertising dollars you can generate in a market like that. Again, the bigger their New York club gets, the more Man City fans will be created.

Man City is the jewel in the crown. Everything is built around making it the preeminent sports entertainment brand in the world. the CEO of the City group wanted to do it with Barcelona when he was the chief there but their ownership structure disallowed it (fan owned). Big mistake by Barcelona, who could have taken this concept and absolutely destroyed everyone.

I get your point, but from an Australian perspective the interest in City will never result h the heights of the big boys .
As from a Melbourne perspective, I don’t see any inroads . They’d need decades of Success to be a European powerhouse .
I do find it amusing as they’ve derided united for decades about bein a corporate business and more interest in its own brand , yet they’ve followed a similar path .

[Twodogs]

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I get your point, but from an Australian perspective the interest in City will never result h the heights of the big boys .
As from a Melbourne perspective, I don’t see any inroads . They’d need decades of Success to be a European powerhouse .
I do find it amusing as they’ve derided united for decades about bein a corporate business and more interest in its own brand , yet they’ve followed a similar path .

Yeah but it's easy to remain ideologically pure and take cheap shots from the peanut gallery. That wears thin after a bit though and a club wants to win something so they have to join them.

It is a bit funny though.

[LostDoggy]

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They still have about 14 titles and 5 CL titles to go before they get anywhere so good luck to em.

On a brighter note Liverpool are the first team in top flight history to win 4 consecutive away games by at least 3 goals.

[chef]

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I get your point, but from an Australian perspective the interest in City will never result h the heights of the big boys .
As from a Melbourne perspective, I don’t see any inroads . They’d need decades of Success to be a European powerhouse .
I do find it amusing as they’ve derided united for decades about bein a corporate business and more interest in its own brand , yet they’ve followed a similar path .

TBH I don't think it's going to take that much time for them to become a 'big' club world wide. Everybody loves a winner and they have got a bigger backer than any other club, probs the best manager and a blank cheque book.

It scares me that they could become the "Bayern" of our league.

[Webby]

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TBH I don't think it's going to take that much time for them to become a 'big' club world wide. Everybody loves a winner and they have got a bigger backer than any other club, probs the best manager and a blank cheque book.

It scares me that they could become the "Bayern" of our league.

Just realised today that Bayern are 11 points clear shooting for their sixth consecutive title. It also means that they'll punch through the 50% mark for titles won since their first Bundesliga title 53 years ago.

Meanwhile, Hamburg - the only remaining other club to not be relegated from the Bundesliga, sit in the relegation zone.
The Germans may have a great national team, but their league is a joke.

England is the complete opposite. They have enough strong clubs to avoid any one club becoming a Bayern Munich. Thankfully!

[GVGjr]

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Just realised today that Bayern are 11 points clear shooting for their sixth consecutive title. It also means that they'll punch through the 50% mark for titles won since their first Bundesliga title 53 years ago.

Meanwhile, Hamburg - the only remaining other club to not be relegated from the Bundesliga, sit in the relegation zone.
The Germans may have a great national team, but their league is a joke.

England is the complete opposite. They have enough strong clubs to avoid any one club becoming a Bayern Munich. Thankfully!

In the Serie A there are 5 teams still in contention. That doesn't happen too often.

[LostDoggy]

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In the Serie A there are 5 teams still in contention. That doesn't happen too often.

Serie A is very close at the moment, 4 points seperate the top 4 with 4th having a game in hand.

[Remi Moses]

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Love to see Roma win it .

[LostDoggy]

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Pretty important matches coming up this weekend for the top 4.

4 v 5(h). Liv v Ars
6(h) v 7. Bur v Tott

[LostDoggy]

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Funny game as usual. 3-3. I guess that will do.